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Old 29 Jul 2020, 17:27 (Ref:3991450)   #1
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With the demise of the Parade, perhaps we could try something different;

Can you identify thiis car and add a little history?
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 19:26 (Ref:3991490)   #2
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From the badge, it's a Cubitt but more than that I do not know.
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 20:00 (Ref:3991497)   #3
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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Cubitt%20c...562.jpg&t=ffhp

Colin is right .Cubitt , built in aylesbury 19250-25 , about 3000 were made , doubt there are many left now .
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Old 29 Jul 2020, 20:45 (Ref:3991505)   #4
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Well it's a start. Thanks chaps.
I actually worked on one once when I worked for Tula Engineering in Kimpton,
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Old 30 Jul 2020, 06:22 (Ref:3991547)   #5
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Well, according to the DVLA, the Cubitt was manufactured in 1925, and it appears to have had the same owner since at least 2012. It is a 2998 cc variant, and is currently on the SORN list.
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Old 30 Jul 2020, 20:31 (Ref:3991728)   #6
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Well it's a start. Thanks chaps.
I actually worked on one once when I worked for Tula Engineering in Kimpton,
Really nice guy Chris - he bought my other Studebaker which I think is now nearly finished - only taken him since '93
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Old 30 Jul 2020, 20:39 (Ref:3991734)   #7
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crMalcolm had the Bobtail right. Anyone else?
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Old 30 Jul 2020, 20:48 (Ref:3991736)   #8
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The Cooper Bobtail might have come about for an aerodynamic reason .

Without the cutaway it might have had the profile of a wing .
The date of this was just a couple of years after Jaguar tried their " Low Drag " C type at Le Mans , & although they tried to keep the reason for retirement quiet , I am fairly sure that the C type was nearly flying off the road on Mulsanne as it was an ideal shape for aerodynamic lift .

So , perhaps by then , Cooper had figured it out & was not going to make the same mistake .
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At the time there were two theories as to the reason for the the unique design of the Cooper Bobtail's rear end.
Can you name them both?

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Old 30 Jul 2020, 15:49 (Ref:3991673)   #10
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What connects these two cars? (PMs only please)
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RBS knew the answer to the Cooper puzzle. (well almost).
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The Bobtail?
1. To make it short enough to fit in the transporter
2. So the tail would sit flat on the ground when hinged back

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1. To make it short enough to fit in the transporter
2. So the tail would sit flat on the ground when hinged back

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Half way there, from a man who doesn't do PMs
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With the demise of the Parade, perhaps we could try something different;

Can you identify thiis car and add a little history?
I think I spot a Tenther in that picture...
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I think I spot a Tenther in that picture...
Indeed, Fay herself.
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What is the connection?

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The Bobtail story seems reasonably well known, judging by the replies. The design is a variation on the aerodynamic theories of Dr. Kamm, who advocated a flat rear end as a better option than a more streamlined for the tail of a car. I do not profess to grasp the detail, but Cooper added the concave to the 'flat back' theory.

John Cooper, light heartedly I'm sure, explained it was because a longer design would not fit into the Cooper transporter.
The 'flat back' can be seen on various Aston Martins, and Ferrari models.
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Now how about the third puzzle?
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The Bobtail story seems reasonably well known, judging by the replies. The design is a variation on the aerodynamic theories of Dr. Kamm, who advocated a flat rear end as a better option than a more streamlined for the tail of a car. I do not profess to grasp the detail, but Cooper added the concave to the 'flat back' theory.

John Cooper, light heartedly I'm sure, explained it was because a longer design would not fit into the Cooper transporter.
The 'flat back' can be seen on various Aston Martins, and Ferrari models.
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Now how about the third puzzle?
I think that Jaguar learnt an expensive aerodynamic lesson from the C Type , & were keen not to pass the information on , so claimed that they withdrew from Le Mans due to overheating .[ They did scrap all of the "Low Drag " bodies when they got back .]

So perhaps Cooper was doing a similar thing with their new shape & saying that it fitted better on the trailer , rather than giving information away to everyone else that it was a step forward in aerodynamic design
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So perhaps Cooper was doing a similar thing with their new shape & saying that it fitted better on the trailer , rather than giving information away to everyone else that it was a step forward in aerodynamic design
It came about because Owen Maddock had been studying the work of Professor Wunibald Kamm and wanted to implement such an arrangement on a new car.
John Cooper was sceptical about the silhouette, and so explained the design as being to fit into the transporter, until the aero benefits were proven.

More details of the work by Maddock on this design, and Cooper's response, can be found in Doug Nye's 2003 book - 'Cooper Cars'. ISBN 0-7603-1709-7.
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Can't do anything about your third puzzle Bob, as all I can see is two symbols of a no-entry sign and a message that the image has been resized....don't seem to be able to access them.....
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I will try again;
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