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Old 7 Oct 2007, 17:31 (Ref:2034151)   #26
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You do realise Talladega is totally flat out? A qualifying lap good or bad is irrelevant to all intents and purposes. All about setup.

I'd fully expect the Toyota's to have a harder time today.

Yes I do know it's flat out but he did it on his own, he set the 6th fastest time, not bad for your cup debut no matter how well your team mates did with the same engine.

I now have NASN so I am looking forward to seeing Sam and JV Cup debut
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 18:27 (Ref:2034209)   #27
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What happened to JV at the start? - went right to the back.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 18:28 (Ref:2034210)   #28
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Chose to start at the back of the field John.
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Chose to start at the back of the field John.
thanks - only got live timing here.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 18:41 (Ref:2034223)   #30
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he chose to start at the back? good on him i guess ! ?
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 18:54 (Ref:2034228)   #31
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he chose to start at the back? good on him i guess ! ?
Yes. He did it to show respect and as courtesy to the chasers. You know, some of those folks who were whining about him being in the race, like Jeff Gordon and Kurt Busch who JV just flew past.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 19:10 (Ref:2034236)   #32
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I'm following the live timing too.

Tried to sign up to track pass or whatever their live service is called, but my Non US credit card isn't good enough for them.

Jacques up to 30th.. the boy is doing good, be up to Montoya soon
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 19:20 (Ref:2034240)   #33
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 20:10 (Ref:2034284)   #34
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JPM 3rd, JV up to 20th by lap 105. Junior is 9th and has already led 32 laps.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 20:14 (Ref:2034288)   #35
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No live timing. No images.

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Old 7 Oct 2007, 20:59 (Ref:2034343)   #36
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Live timing: http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/cup/foxTrax
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 21:02 (Ref:2034344)   #37
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Oh excellent!

Can even select your drivers.

Jeff Gordon is moving forward.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 21:18 (Ref:2034361)   #38
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JPM is driving a good race, maybe his best JV as expected. Gordon is starting to move.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 21:22 (Ref:2034364)   #39
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They seem to be running single file now (from what I can tell from live timing), it's all spread out.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 21:26 (Ref:2034368)   #40
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Yes, they have been single file up front for a while. I don't think that will change until the final laps. Sorenson has been up there with JPM all race, and Stremme is in 11th. This could be key at the end of the race. The only other teammates up front right now are the Penske drivers. Stewart is alone.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 21:27 (Ref:2034371)   #41
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Closing up again now.

JV up to 17th.
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Old 7 Oct 2007, 21:33 (Ref:2034377)   #42
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Damn this is tense and I can't even see anything.

JV is on the Talladega yo-yo. Oh BTW, what happened to Raines, he suddenly dropped back from the lead some laps back to about mid-pack? He just get shuffled out and lose the draft?

And Jimmie Johnson pops up in sixth.
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Seems Stewart got shuffled back. Penske 1-2. Could be ominous.
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JV hit the wall and was slow after that. Hopefully the crew can fix the damage under this caution and perhaps JV can come home with a top 10. JPM is up to 3rd, behind the Penske drivers. I am not sure what happened to Raines.

Johnson, Gordon, Mears, Bowyer, and a few others adopted a strategy Dale Jarrett and a few others began in 2001 at plate tracks: lag back away from the big pack in a small pack for 3/5 or 2/3 of the race. The theory is they will have enough time to avoid the wreck if they are far enough behind and that they can easily catch the pack if necessary late in the race, even if there is not a caution. That is why Johnson suddenly charged to the front. He always had a good car but was not racing for most of the day.
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Seems Stewart got shuffled back. Penske 1-2. Could be ominous.
Yes. JJ got up to 2nd, went for the lead, and in the shuffling the Penske cars went underneath Stewart and passed him, while JJ lost momentum and fell back a bit. JPM followed the Penske cars to 3rd. Stewart was still falling back but was saved by a caution. Without it he could have fallen to 20th.
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Yes, I have noticed them do it in the races I've watched over the past two or three years. To me it seems more risky in theory but it obviously works a treat!

Wish Sorenson was sitting in fourth.

Hadn't noticed the great big bloody yellow flag icon on the screen there.
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JPM, barring the usual Restrictor plate odds, has a legitimate shot at winning the race.
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Matt, trust me, it will go horribly wrong.
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Haha. Yeah, then again, you never know. This should be quite a treat.
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