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Old 13 Jan 2010, 12:53 (Ref:2612708)   #26
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Yes. I know.
It is an all-star race "SUPER GT & Formula Nippon Fuji sprint cup 2010" on November 13-14.
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Old 13 Jan 2010, 12:53 (Ref:2612709)   #27
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Old 13 Jan 2010, 18:46 (Ref:2612891)   #28
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AUTOSPORT reported the 2011 DTM vehicle regulation plan that ITR proposed GTA.
The union carbon monocoque (and roll cage) and the union floor(with 20mm skid block) were proposed.
Wheelbases(2850mm) and front and rear overhang are united.
"Design line" is decided, and the shape of the base vehicle is obligated above the design line.
The below the design line (front and rear bumper, front and rear fender) is permitted to be developed.
Front spoiler and rear diffuser are united.
The engine displacement is uncertain though V8.
The engine use limitation of 1.5 per season has been decided.
51% cost reduction is scheduled compared with 2010 in 2014.
So except engine and bodywork it's almost a single spec car?
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Old 13 Jan 2010, 19:08 (Ref:2612902)   #29
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And no more winglets on the backside of the wheels, overall, not a bad idea - for DTM anyway, not sure I'd like it for SGT.

Edit, ermm wait: rear fender might still mean winglets. Oh bother....

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Old 13 Jan 2010, 19:14 (Ref:2612905)   #30
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And no more winglets on the backside of the wheels, overall, not a bad idea - for DTM anyway, not sure I'd like it for SGT.
Depends on what the design line is:
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"Design line" is decided, and the shape of the base vehicle is obligated above the design line.
The below the design line (front and rear bumper, front and rear fender) is permitted to be developed.
But with SuperGT cars (and the first "new" DTM cars) in mind you are probably right. (have to admit I am not a fan of these, I prefer the more elegant bodywork of GT2 cars)

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Old 13 Jan 2010, 21:01 (Ref:2612960)   #31
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This is worrying!!!! The Beauty of SuperGt is that its completely unique to all the race series the world over. The cars look and sound a distinct way and its doing pretty well for a national championship. When i first heard about DTM Super Gt merger, i was hoping that both series keep their independent style and when they do meet for one off or invitation races, ballast or air restrictors even up the field. but by the sounds of things this is sounding more restrictive than grand am
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Old 13 Jan 2010, 21:07 (Ref:2612964)   #32
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AUTOSPORT reported the 2011 DTM vehicle regulation plan that ITR proposed GTA.
The union carbon monocoque (and roll cage) and the union floor(with 20mm skid block) were proposed.
Wheelbases(2850mm) and front and rear overhang are united.
"Design line" is decided, and the shape of the base vehicle is obligated above the design line.
The below the design line (front and rear bumper, front and rear fender) is permitted to be developed.
Front spoiler and rear diffuser are united.
The engine displacement is uncertain though V8.
The engine use limitation of 1.5 per season has been decided.
51% cost reduction is scheduled compared with 2010 in 2014.

Now why would they want to go and change the engine regulations which they just did and are geared towards cost reduction through and engine which can be used in various series? Also, Super GT currently uses 1 engine for 4 races right? I hope they aren't thinking of a drastic power reduction.

So all cars will share a monocoque and floor? That's not so bad, the front and rear subframes and the suspensions connected to them will still be different. I think they will still be able to keep their uniqueness depending on where the design line is.
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 01:54 (Ref:2613097)   #33
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Sorry, usage restrictions of the engine have not been decided yet.
It is a proposal that ITR did.
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 02:01 (Ref:2613099)   #34
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So would that be a common monocoque for Nissan's, Honda's and Toyota's front engined cars but also for Mercedes' entry (SLS?) More problematic would be Audi's (big front engined coupé that they don't build or a sedan when other race coupés), BMW (they probably prefer their racing M3s to be road car based) and manufacturers like Alfa or Opel that don't make cars anywhere close to those.

Anyways there's a danger that cars start looking like the NASCAR COT when you change their normal proportions...
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 02:18 (Ref:2613102)   #35
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According to AUTOSPORT, the union monocoque is bathtub shape.
The shape of the cabin is the same as the base vehicle.
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 08:23 (Ref:2613149)   #36
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Well, they have the S5...
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 10:03 (Ref:2613196)   #37
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Team RE-amemiya(#7) announced the driver lineup at this season.
It is Nobuteru Taniguchi and Ryo Orime as well as last season.
The car is RX-7. However, it becomes the last season for RX-7.
http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/race/index2.html
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 11:11 (Ref:2613249)   #38
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Do they mean this tub/seating arangement? Its currently used in the DTM, i think its totally safety related and not a stressed part

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Old 14 Jan 2010, 11:29 (Ref:2613255)   #39
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Do they mean this tub/seating arangement? Its currently used in the DTM, i think its totally safety related and not a stressed part
It looks like the structure of the carbon monocoque of Super GT.
It is a complete stress member.
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Old 14 Jan 2010, 17:54 (Ref:2613430)   #40
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So more like this? This could be more promising, much like the (name escapes me) proposed Japanese single seater championship where the engines and Tubs were standardised and everything else was free

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Old 14 Jan 2010, 21:27 (Ref:2613553)   #41
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So more like this? This could be more promising, much like the (name escapes me) proposed Japanese single seater championship where the engines and Tubs were standardised and everything else was free

Pretty much what I understood by the announcement.

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Old 15 Jan 2010, 07:56 (Ref:2613703)   #42
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aww...i hope they stay in with an RX8 or MX5 chassis, instead of pulling out like Cusco did
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Old 15 Jan 2010, 10:47 (Ref:2613755)   #43
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Yes, the roll cage is united to this "bathtub".

Team Cars Tokai Dream28(#2) announced the driver line-up at this season.
It is Hiroki Kato and Hiroshi Hamaguchi(Rookie).
We can see Shiden this year, too.
http://www.hondacars-tokai.com/carst...1/supergt.html

I don't think that there is Amemiya's withdrawals because they have a rich sponsor.
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Who is Richard Lyons driving for in 2010 please , and is there a pic of his car knocking about ?

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It is said that the driver lineup of Lexus will not be decided until it is decided whether Kazuki Nakajima can acquire the F1 seat.

Team Mach(#5) announced that they used Vemac 408R at this season.
It might be a chassis that Team R&D sport had used before.
They plan to install the Porsche engine in this chassis (Former engine is Mugen 408S/458S).
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Old 17 Jan 2010, 20:28 (Ref:2614799)   #46
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Who is Richard Lyons driving for in 2010 please , and is there a pic of his car knocking about ?

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Good question. Probably will stay with Cerumo or maybe go back to Xanavi Nismo?

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It is said that the driver lineup of Lexus will not be decided until it is decided whether Kazuki Nakajima can acquire the F1 seat.

Team Mach(#5) announced that they used Vemac 408R at this season.
It might be a chassis that Team R&D sport had used before.
They plan to install the Porsche engine in this chassis (Former engine is Mugen 408S/458S).
Interesting. Which of the Lexus teams would he drive for?
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Honda announced the this year's S-GT program and driver line-up.
http://www.honda.co.jp/SuperGT/news2010/01/
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/...18_343101.html
http://as-web.jp/photonews/?c_id=2

It will be a Suzuka test tomorrow and the day after tomorrow.
NISMO(#23) seems to change the tire supplier from BS to Michelin!
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Old 18 Jan 2010, 11:37 (Ref:2615059)   #48
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bummer, i only just did these yesterday ...they dont usually roll out the completed paint schemes in the first test session though, so its still fun to guess

good to see Real Racing is still in


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And the Honda engine is the same as the Acura/HPD LMP2 engine, according to the Honda HSV GT500's profile at Ultimate Car Page.
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New Honda and Lexus, Nissan (also the FIA GT1 cars) testing at Suzuka ...

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