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Old 17 Apr 2014, 19:59 (Ref:3394082)   #1
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BTCC Rounds 4-6 Donington Park

All going well we should see 31 cars out, with Dan Welch's Proton now ready.

Fingers crossed for more good racing, perhaps more split out with Doningtons faster flowing nature.
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 21:48 (Ref:3394119)   #2
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i think there might be a few moans about traiffic during qualfying, can we have a go at guessing how many cars safety get past Redgate?
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 09:25 (Ref:3394288)   #3
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i think there might be a few moans about traiffic during qualfying, can we have a go at guessing how many cars safety get past Redgate?
I wonder will they introduce a progressive knockout format for qualifying a la F1... or possibly just a top ten run off ?
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 09:43 (Ref:3394293)   #4
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I wonder will they introduce a progressive knockout format for qualifying a la F1... or possibly just a top ten run off ?
Perhaps a showdown where they have one shot?
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 09:47 (Ref:3394297)   #5
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Why not a "Dunlop Desperate 6" where the 6 slowest drivers over both practice sessions fight to actually get into the main qualifying event...
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 09:49 (Ref:3394300)   #6
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Why not a "Dunlop Desperate 6" where the 6 slowest drivers over both practice sessions fight to actually get into the main qualifying event...
Nah... I don't want to see people turned away from the racing. That would leave a very sour taste in everyone's mouth.
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 09:54 (Ref:3394303)   #7
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If the current format worked around Brands Hatch Indy, then leave it be.
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 09:58 (Ref:3394304)   #8
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I always think that unless there is a flaw in the system (not people making errors based on it) then you shouldn't change it.

It's why I absolutely hate the double points rule in F1, and why NASCAR is just a show for me.
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 10:00 (Ref:3394305)   #9
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If the current format worked around Brands Hatch Indy, then leave it be.
Traffic was an issue at Brands Indy and over the course of the year I think it will become a source of driver moaning... particularly if it results in one of the title contenders getting out of position.

... also, Alan Gow's never a one to let an entertainment/excitement opportunity pass by.
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 10:02 (Ref:3394307)   #10
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I always think that unless there is a flaw in the system (not people making errors based on it) then you shouldn't change it.
Fortunately society thinks differently otherwise we'd still be living in caves
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 15:29 (Ref:3394494)   #11
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Brands Indy is the smallest circuit of the year, there won't be the same crowding at Donnington unless theres a sudden last minute charge to do a hot lap.
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 09:40 (Ref:3394842)   #12
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anyone fancy BMR Restart first podium tomorrow ??

and looks like another disaster for Motorbase , best Ford Newsham in 14th

the RAR Audis again doing very poorly on this track, must be a boogie for them
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 10:04 (Ref:3394849)   #13
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Impressive running from Hynes in FP1, fastest of the MGs. Hoping for a good weekend from him!
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 12:12 (Ref:3394934)   #14
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team BMR Restart flies !!


Gio finally inside top 10, may end up on podium with reversed grid in race 3

Neal and Jordan really struggle with weight ballast
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 15:11 (Ref:3395028)   #15
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Qualy over

familiar faces on top 4 , surprise Row 3 with Smith and Menu, well in striking range of podium, also fancy Turks to do a lightning start and be at front

Neal rather behind

we can conclude the Motorbase Ford is one of the worst cars on the grid, fastest Gio only 11th...

I wouldn't blame Gio if he switches teams if a better seat is offered
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 17:08 (Ref:3395113)   #16
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we can conclude the Motorbase Ford is one of the worst cars on the grid, fastest Gio only 11th...
I don't think we can (!)

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I wouldn't blame Gio if he switches teams if a better seat is offered
Are you referring to 'teams' outside of the BTCC here ? In case you weren't aware, there isn't exactly a oversupply of funded drives on the look out for professional drivers in the BTCC.
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 17:13 (Ref:3395120)   #17
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What do you think is wrong with the Focus?
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 17:46 (Ref:3395144)   #18
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I don't think we can (!)
with Matt Jackson, Newsham and now even Gio failing to bring it inside the top 10 something is really wrong with the Focus, as you remember it didn't peform stellar last year either



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I know but who knows, maybe Neal or Plato will finally retire, maybe Gio gets a big sponsor that he could afford a 3rd Dynamics seat dunno a lot can happen in silly season

the championship is on upwards trend and seems sponsors are again willing to invest more in it including capable drivers
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 18:45 (Ref:3395171)   #19
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To be honest, driver quality has improved for this season. Áron Smith is doing what I thought he could do and that is be as fast as one of the best, and guys with good records like Jack Clarke are near the back.
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What do you think is wrong with the Focus?
It's a Ford?

In all seriousness, it's a mystery. We know Gio can wring a time out of a crap car from his days in the Astra and his appearances in the WTCC Accord, but he's not on the pace yet.
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It's a Ford?

In all seriousness, it's a mystery. We know Gio can wring a time out of a crap car from his days in the Astra and his appearances in the WTCC Accord, but he's not on the pace yet.
yeah but he outqualified both Newsham and Mat Jackson who are both quick BTCC veterans

it must something really wrong with the Focus eithe straight line speed or still problematic handling , either way you can take driver competence out of the equation , it's something fundamental with car itself

maybe the Mountune engine is simply not good with low boost , will be interesting how they do on the straight tomorrow
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The Ford did look like a winner again towards the end of the year. Maybe the others have done their homework better and they've been left behind?

Good to see 3 BMR cars in the top eight, Menu surely will add to his 36 wins this year. Maybe the next two meetings as he always went well at Thruxton and Oulton. Of course the reverse grid tomorrow could help him.
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Old 19 Apr 2014, 21:18 (Ref:3395250)   #23
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Having watched qualifying the problem seems to be handling.... Gio took a trip into the gravel at one point and Tim Harvey noted that he'd been complaining about rear end grip. There was a shot of Jack Clarke squirming about all over under braking which further suggests the same. I wonder if the problem is primarily chassis or aero related? It's interesting that the AMD car with last years aero seems to be no less competitive (or no more uncompetitive for that matter).

Jackson used to have his S2000 Focus very tail happy I recall; maybe the problem stems from the team trying to get the NGTC car set up the same way. Gio actually said (in a mag - can't remember which one!) that he had driven cars developed around himself and cars developed around Evan Muller, but he had no idea who the Motorbase Focus had been developed around! No disrespect to Mat by the way I like him as a driver but it seems that S2000 and NGTC behave quite differently in terms of set up.

I hope they can get it sorted either way - they certainly have the people on board to do it.
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So the BTCC crowd is at Donington then?

I didn't hear a peep today and I don't remember thinking that the wind was blowing strongly in the wrong direction. Had to be some action going on - according to the commentary on Donington Park FM Radio.

Are all the cars in all the races really quiet this year? Most track days result in more noise.
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So the BTCC crowd is at Donington then?

I didn't hear a peep today and I don't remember thinking that the wind was blowing strongly in the wrong direction. Had to be some action going on - according to the commentary on Donington Park FM Radio.

Are all the cars in all the races really quiet this year? Most track days result in more noise.
You probably couldn't hear them over the planes...
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