ADAC GT Masters 2011 - Page 2

Sirius Motorspo · 28 Nov 2010, 14:38 (Ref:2796773)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

GT-Masters is one hour races only, so you can only have two drivers per car...

Similarly with the usual length of stints for the GT3-cars on the Nordschleife, it makes no sense to run 4 drivers in the regular VLN-races as you would have to seriously compromise your strategy to give all of them the same driving time.

Sorry..Typo on the GT Masters numbers, but if you can attract semi-experienced gentlemen racers, for instance 2 Bronze and 2 Silver, to the VLN it´s still a decent business leaving the GT Masters to be your prime target ?

Go_For_Pole · 29 Nov 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2797321)

So this series is for Pro Am driver pairs?

Acid09 · 29 Nov 2010, 20:22 (Ref:2797330)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

So this series is for Pro Am driver pairs?

Yes, Pro-Pro pairings get additional handicap weights afaik.

Speed-King · 29 Nov 2010, 20:39 (Ref:2797338)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

Yes, Pro-Pro pairings get additional handicap weights afaik.

Yup, but like FIA GT3, the definition of who's a pro and who not is a little iffy, so teams get away with pairing fast youngsters with pros or having line-ups completely made up of young hotshoes like Abt did this year.

With the still somewhat limited level of attention the series is getting pro-pro is probably financially not viable yet, anyway - you'd need some serious outside sponsorship for that.

Go_For_Pole · 29 Nov 2010, 21:22 (Ref:2797348)

even with live tv?! how much is the budget per driver in a good team?

Speed-King · 30 Nov 2010, 14:43 (Ref:2797669)

News from the Essen Motorshow:
- Reiter intends to field to Lmabos for the whole season
- Achim Winter, who came third in this year's gentleman's trophy plans to race in a Ferrari 458 GT3 next year.

Sirius Motorspo · 30 Nov 2010, 18:43 (Ref:2797775)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

even with live tv?! how much is the budget per driver in a good team?

Depending on your race experience you should expect numbers around 130-160.000 Euros (Phoenix, ABT & Mühlner numbers) including catering for 6 sponsors each race, but without damage, travel and accomodation expenses.

Go_For_Pole · 30 Nov 2010, 20:50 (Ref:2797837)

thanks! well it's not that bad for what it is.

dj4monie · 4 Dec 2010, 06:49 (Ref:2799394)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

Too bad, another exotic car gone.

That's kind of a flaw of the whole GT3 concept, there are lots of interesting cars but still people end up entering Audis, BMWs or Porsches...same with the VLN. It's always same-old, same-old...

I`d like to see more Vipers, Ferraris, maybe a Morgan.. wasn't the GT3 formula designed to make all these cars competitive?

If Ascari gave the same level of support and R&D as the others do, then they would still run it. You shouldn't have to "dumb" down a series so a small manufacturer can be competitive, when other small companies don't need that sort of help, just better engineers I guess.

Speed-King · 4 Dec 2010, 15:50 (Ref:2799534)

Cars so far entered for the 2011-season, as per this article:

6x Mercedes SLS
5x Audi R8LMS
5x Lamborgini Gallardo
10x Porsche (not sure if all GT3R or some Cup-cars)
1x Ferrari
4x Corvette

Entries from BMW, Alpina and Dodge are also expected... That's a huge field!

Acid09 · 4 Dec 2010, 22:22 (Ref:2799695)

11 cars from Audi & Mercedes and no confirmed BMW yet? Urgh....

Good numbers overall though.

Speed-King · 9 Dec 2010, 10:01 (Ref:2801880)

The GT-Masters website has published a list of all confirmed entries so far:

http://gtmasters.org/newsitem.php?key=1045

kyoung · 9 Dec 2010, 14:33 (Ref:2801998)

A veritable VAGfest.

Birddog07 · 18 Dec 2010, 04:49 (Ref:2805866)

That's a healthy list, can't wait for 2011.

Speed-King · 23 Feb 2011, 09:14 (Ref:2835496)

Team Liqui Molly Engstler to field a pair of Alpinas

Kinda strange, as they've already bought a Z4 and ran it at Dubai...

Speed-King · 24 Feb 2011, 21:17 (Ref:2836388)

Also, a new engine for the Alpina - out goes the supercharged 4,4l V8, in goes a Dinan BMW Daytona Prototype engine...

rich07 · 25 Feb 2011, 02:07 (Ref:2836516)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Also, a new engine for the Alpina - out goes the supercharged 4,4l V8, in goes a Dinan BMW Daytona Prototype engine...

How is that possible? rules must be pretty flexible-unless the Dinan engine is based on the same engine that was in the Alpina without the supercharger?

Speed-King · 25 Feb 2011, 08:17 (Ref:2836595)

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Originally Posted by rich07

How is that possible? rules must be pretty flexible-unless the Dinan engine is based on the same engine that was in the Alpina without the supercharger?

The engine rules are indeed pretty flexible - I think you're fine as long the engine is from the same manufacturer. BMW was allowed to switch from the I6 to the V8 in the Z4 after all...

**joeb** · 25 Feb 2011, 15:01 (Ref:2836771)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

Also, a new engine for the Alpina - out goes the supercharged 4,4l V8, in goes a Dinan BMW Daytona Prototype engine...

Do they get to use the Dinan engine that got teams in a little bit of trouble last year, or the current GA deemed "legal" engine?

gino · 25 Feb 2011, 17:02 (Ref:2836816)

Current 34(!) entrys:

http://www.adac-gt-masters.de/steckb...h=&lg=d&st=15&

Speed-King · 25 Feb 2011, 17:04 (Ref:2836817)

And the Engstler Alpinas aren't even on that list so far...

gino · 1 Mar 2011, 18:58 (Ref:2838617)

since today we have 37 entrys:

7x Audi R8 LMS
4x Corvette Z06
8x Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
5x Lamborghini Gallardo
10x Porsche 911
1x Ferrari F430
1x Dodge Viper Competition Coupé
1x ?

.....but no Alpinas yet.

Birddog07 · 3 Mar 2011, 05:06 (Ref:2839441)

No Z4's? Shame, always enjoy seeing them battle it out.

rich07 · 3 Mar 2011, 06:02 (Ref:2839451)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

The engine rules are indeed pretty flexible - I think you're fine as long the engine is from the same manufacturer. BMW was allowed to switch from the I6 to the V8 in the Z4 after all...

Really? Thats not bad considering I assumed they were running to FIA GT3 regs, could lead to some interesting combinations if people had time and money.

And they're not on the entrylist yet...

But 37 cars is a good number, I wish Australian GT had a field like that

, it kinda helps I guess if half the cars in the field are built in the same country. Great to see the Viper still being raced.

gino · 3 Mar 2011, 16:46 (Ref:2839707)

since today they add two Reiter Engineering Lambos......39 cars now.

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