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View Poll Results: best endurance racing series in existence today
ALMS 39 41.05%
LMS 30 31.58%
GrandAm 9 9.47%
FIA-GT 7 7.37%
SuperGT 3 3.16%
VLN/Nürburgring 3 3.16%
Belcar 2 2.11%
Brit GT 1 1.05%
Britcar 0 0%
other (please state which) 1 1.05%
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 03:14 (Ref:1517739)   #26
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I went with ALMS, although I almost went for LMS for the grids. But ALMS gives you Sebring, Petit Le Mans, Laguna and Road America (give us a longer race!).

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Old 8 Feb 2006, 04:51 (Ref:1517782)   #27
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why doesnt LMES have a 12 hour race or somthing like that
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 06:57 (Ref:1517809)   #28
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Really, for me, it comes down to LMS vs. ALMS.

LMS is more the proper endurance series as a whole, and I'd love for the ALMS to lengthen their races some.

But, LMS doesn't have near enough races yet. LMS had larger grids, ALMS stronger teams.

Would be nice to have the grids mixed, with longer racers more often, but for now, not a reality.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 08:23 (Ref:1517843)   #29
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Asian events?!!? Who wants Asian events?!!?!?
Asians?

Although I get the general point about WC.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 08:33 (Ref:1517851)   #30
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It has to be either the LMS or the ALMS for me, both great championships with good grids, great tracks and great racing. What more do you want.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 08:34 (Ref:1517854)   #31
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I think the best way is to keep the LMS as it is but create a world championship that comprises the biggest races in each of the calendars: Sebring 12 Hours and Petit Le Mans from ALMS, the Spa 1000km and Monza 1000km from LMS and another 1000km race in Japan.

Add Adelaide as the season finale and that will be good enough for me
This is my view as well. Have individual 'local' championships in each continent, then have the key races counting towards a world championship. That way the poorly funded teams will compete for the local title and the manufacturers and well funded teams can compete globally for the world title. Thus involving no extra races, and the teams can choose what they do.

I personally think this is the direction the ACO is deliberately heading.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 08:40 (Ref:1517861)   #32
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Not the "we want a World Championship" spiel again... - isn't it getting boring by now, dreaming up ficticious schedules that you know won't ever happen?
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 11:04 (Ref:1517959)   #33
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I like it currently.
3 big championships: ALMS, LMES, FIA GT
I wouldn't like 1 big championship.
I think ALMS' 3 hour races are quite good, + 3 longer races
I think Road America should be 500 miles though

"Big" races like LM, Sebring, PLM wouldn't be so special anymore if we had dozens of 24h races.

I like that LMES and ALMS have slightly different concepts. ALMS has shorter and faster races while LMES has 5 1000km/6h races.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 13:22 (Ref:1518055)   #34
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Grand Am, because there is a bit of competition
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 19:15 (Ref:1518282)   #35
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Asians?

Although I get the general point about WC.
I think you know what I mean...No Asian events within the LMS which would require teams to travel halfway around the world just to please some Japanese Execs.

Let's keep the LMS a European championship.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 20:03 (Ref:1518317)   #36
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I think you know what I mean...No Asian events within the LMS which would require teams to travel halfway around the world just to please some Japanese Execs.

Let's keep the LMS a European championship.
Any race in Asia would be funded by the promoters.

Teams would not have to splash out for shipping.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 21:15 (Ref:1518354)   #37
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I think you know what I mean...No Asian events within the LMS which would require teams to travel halfway around the world just to please some Japanese Execs.

Let's keep the LMS a European championship.
Like a lot of teams from Japan and America have to travel to France every year ?!
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 21:32 (Ref:1518361)   #38
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Like a lot of teams from Japan and America have to travel to France every year ?!
That's no proper comparison, there's quite a difference between a JLMS and a race like LeMans.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 21:33 (Ref:1518363)   #39
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Like a lot of teams from Japan and America have to travel to France every year ?!
An American or Japanese team "having" to travel to Le Mans every year, is like saying a Muslim dislikes going to Mecca.

(oops, did I just mention Islam? Help!)
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 21:50 (Ref:1518372)   #40
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I pretty much enjoy most endurance series out there; but for me it's Grand Am.
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 22:04 (Ref:1518384)   #41
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An American or Japanese team "having" to travel to Le Mans every year, is like saying a Muslim dislikes going to Mecca.

(oops, did I just mention Islam? Help!)
Ok .... point taken , Is Mecca in France too ?
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Old 8 Feb 2006, 23:16 (Ref:1518427)   #42
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Ok .... point taken , Is Mecca in France too ?
Watch it - such things can start riots you know.
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Old 9 Feb 2006, 01:38 (Ref:1518488)   #43
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I don't find these jokes funny in the least.
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Old 9 Feb 2006, 04:34 (Ref:1518536)   #44
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I don't find rioting & death threats over cartoons all that funny either.

I'd continue, but then I'd be waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic.

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Old 9 Feb 2006, 14:24 (Ref:1518873)   #45
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I think much of what we're seeing has to do with a lot more than the cartoon; that just brought other issues to the surface. As long as both sides look at each other as "those people' it's not going to get any better either. I could go on as well; but this is not the place for this sort of thing, is it?
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Old 9 Feb 2006, 15:59 (Ref:1518924)   #46
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GA, LMES, ALMS, FIA-GT is my ranking - GA wins because there is so much racing in it, and so many cars and teams that are potential winners. LMES is developing a great P1 field and GT field, but behind it.... ALMS I have to admire because of the Audis, Dyson Lolas and works 'Vettes, but I think in '06 Audi, Porsche, Chevy and Panoz will have the whole series wrapped up tight. Not much actual racing. FIA GT is always entertaining, but the spread in driver abilities is a bit too wide and I do prefer prototypes to GTs.

BGT needs sorting out, it should be great but there's too much time being wasted on politics. In my ideal world the EERC would SORT IT OUT :P
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I think much of what we're seeing has to do with a lot more than the cartoon; that just brought other issues to the surface. As long as both sides look at each other as "those people' it's not going to get any better either. I could go on as well; but this is not the place for this sort of thing, is it?
..... leave it alone , please !
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Old 9 Feb 2006, 16:28 (Ref:1518940)   #48
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Great looking cars = ALMS LMS FIAGT

Best looking Pit Babes = FIAGT

Best racing = GrandAM

Best Grid = GrandAM

Best North American Schedule = ALMS / GrandAM

Most fan friendly = GrandAM

Winner = GradAm
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Ok .... point taken , Is Mecca in France too ?
I seriously hope not, or else Tom Kristensen's in big trouble next time he go's to Le Man!

(sorry I couldn't resist )
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