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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:14 (Ref:913608)   #1
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Dumbrell Penalised

No reason why as yet - Paul Dumbrell has been penalised 75 championship points this evening.

Overall Championship point scores to be adjusted accordingly.

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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:15 (Ref:913610)   #2
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NOT ENOUGH
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:18 (Ref:913621)   #3
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The CAMS list of penalitys will look interesting in a few days time - I think there will be a few.?
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:20 (Ref:913627)   #4
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Average Punter should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridAverage Punter should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridAverage Punter should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Come on!!!

RaceCam was off the gas after contact with ?Todd Kelly and he left the door open.

Any racer would stick his nose in...
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:30 (Ref:913657)   #5
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not at 230 and especially not at that corner.
My count 12 cars wrecked at turn 8
Help me here GTR
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:47 (Ref:913696)   #6
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Yeah, it seems as though turn 8 is the dumbest corner in Australia. Maybe they should open it right up and make it absolutely flat bicky with ease. Did you notice that the opening that completely buggered Radisich's car and knocked him out made a reappearance... how easily we forget...

Let's make a list of cars over the years that have had a hankering for turn 8 concrete.
Matt Coleman
Kim Jane
Steve Johnson
Cam McConville
Brad Jones
Mark Winterbottom
Todd Kelly
Garth Tander
Tony Longhurst
Who else was there... way too many...
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:47 (Ref:913698)   #7
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Complete fool - should be excluded from the results and banned for at least 2 races.

But, of course, he drives a Holden and that gets you off just about anything (refer Bright, Skaife, Kelly).
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 09:51 (Ref:913708)   #8
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Gurr, wimmer and the list goes on/
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 11:03 (Ref:913831)   #9
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It surprises me that people like Morris and Dumbrell can double offend.... or anyone in particular, wouldn't you think after causing indidence, spins, or crashes, the driver would go and hit someone else.

Look at Dumbrell - after that T8 incident, a few laps later, he turned around Baird
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 11:03 (Ref:913832)   #10
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A stupid move from Dumbrell & definately deserves a points penalty.
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 22:05 (Ref:914340)   #11
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A stupid move from Dumbrell & definately deserves a points penalty.
I second that
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 22:22 (Ref:914362)   #12
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I think it's about time they reverted to the full GP circuit. All of this carnage is completely unecessary. Better still maybe they could build a purpose built circuit and do it right.
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 22:35 (Ref:914377)   #13
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I think it's about time they reverted to the full GP circuit. All of this carnage is completely unecessary. Better still maybe they could build a purpose built circuit and do it right.
Yes well we could have had that (Mr Panoz was interested), but thanks to Mr Olsen he lost us that as well.
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 23:14 (Ref:914429)   #14
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Come on!!!

RaceCam was off the gas after contact with ?Todd Kelly and he left the door open.

Any racer would stick his nose in...
Glad somebody else noticed this...Cam should have left room, he was obviously not carrying any speed...
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Old 21 Mar 2004, 23:53 (Ref:914465)   #15
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i agree, it was a bad incident, but Cam ( as much as i like him) was out of place, and not carrying enough speed into the corner.

A racing incident, not a nice one, but a racing incident.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 01:48 (Ref:914550)   #16
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left room? where? run that corner wide to let someone through and your in the fence. hard.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 02:36 (Ref:914568)   #17
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AJ, This may be the case at race-pace, but Cam had slowed dramatically...funny how Dumbrell caught up over 5 car-lengths under brakes
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 02:45 (Ref:914571)   #18
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Anyone with any motorsport brain would know that 2 cars can't fit into turn 8. DUMBrell was far enough up initially but then braked and punted Cam.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 03:33 (Ref:914587)   #19
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75 points and a $10000 fine for Dumbrell. What a joke? So if your well up the inside of someone and they start cutting you off and you back off to get out of it and clip the rear bumper you get pinged. I'm sorry but i can't accept that its it completely wrong
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 04:00 (Ref:914596)   #20
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He deserves that penalty! Look at the damamge that was created as a result of stupid move.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 04:14 (Ref:914601)   #21
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I see Perkins Motorsport is appealing the penalty.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 04:15 (Ref:914602)   #22
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I glad that some people saw the same race as I was watching
McConville was losing speed he was passed by 2 or 3 cars but managed to shut the door on Dumbrell and was out of sorts and losing pace. Dumbrell was all over the back of him for a half a lap with Cam driving defensively
coming down the back straight he left the door open a bit
Dumbrell took his chance not to lose the others that were rocketing away
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 04:58 (Ref:914613)   #23
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Anyone with any motorsport brain would know that 2 cars can't fit into turn 8. DUMBrell was far enough up initially but then braked and punted Cam.
Is that a personal attack on me the driver or both?

If two cars don't fit, why didn't McConville drop behind?

Or is there a new rule that if the car in front of you brakes early (due to an earlier incident, in this case with T.Kelly), and you suddenly find yourself catching up 5 car lengths, that you must slow to there speed and not pass??? Give me a break!
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 05:01 (Ref:914616)   #24
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SmokinJ what a lot of dribble, what race were you watching -
at turn 6 the order in that group was Cam,Greg Murphy, Todd Kelly, THEN Mr Dumbrell,
at turn 7 Murphy got past Cam,
the along the straight between turns 7 - 8 Kelly touched then passed CAM,
THEN Mr Dumbrell stuck it up the inside of Cam no more than 30M before the corner.
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Old 22 Mar 2004, 05:04 (Ref:914618)   #25
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Anyone with any motorsport brain would know that 2 cars can't fit into turn 8. DUMBrell was far enough up initially but then braked and punted Cam.
Yeah sometimes there is enough trouble trying to get 1 car around turn 8
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