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Old 6 Jul 2019, 07:39 (Ref:3916089)   #1
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2020 Liqui-Moly Bathurst 12 Hour (Jan 31 - Feb 2)

Back to a three day program in 2020 from a one-off four day program in 2019. Hopefully this will plug some of the empty gaps, particularly on the Saturday

Talk on socials that the Invitation class has been canned for 2020...... Does this mean a further move towards ultimately a GT3 only race which will please some and dis enchant others further?

Will the race being a part of the IGTC attract good numbers of overseas entries?

Will there be increase in the number of local GT3 cars entered, as they have dropped in recent years?

Will GT4 numbers increase assuming they are included as a class? What about the Porsche Cup Car class?

Will the new GT2 class from SRO feature in the race?

Will a TCR class feature, particularly if ARG are unsuccessful in their bid for the fifth Bathurst event slot?

What support events? Can we have Improved Production back please?
A Super2 round?

Will the crowds continue to grow?

Plenty to talk about
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Old 6 Jul 2019, 10:01 (Ref:3916102)   #2
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well already got my camp site booked and tickets
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 07:39 (Ref:3916453)   #3
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Canít say a Super2 round is that motivating.

Keep FFord, combined sedans, Group S and maybe throw in TCR.
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Old 19 Jul 2019, 00:29 (Ref:3918411)   #4
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The 2019 winner has been bought by Paul Tressider, but looks like it won't be seen at the 12hr next year.

Camp site sales seem to be very strong for next year at this early stage
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And the slide continues

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/08...hurst-12-hour/
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That's SRO gaining power and enforcing their rules.
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Struggle to see how the pit stop rules help the event, itís has lost so much in one rule change.
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Struggle to see how the pit stop rules help the event, itís has lost so much in one rule change.
The SRO rationale for the minimum pit stop times is to prevent costly and unbalancing investment in expensive kit. I am willing to buy that.

The 65-min stints I donít get. It removes all strategy from the race. Maybe thatís the point.
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The SRO rationale for the minimum pit stop times is to prevent costly and unbalancing investment in expensive kit. I am willing to buy that..
Might as well set a minimum lap time as well, so that you can't buy your way to the front with a better car or driver.
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Old 9 Aug 2019, 08:59 (Ref:3922042)   #10
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We're these rule changes required by SRO to stay as part of the IGTC?
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Could be. Judging from the statement in the linked article, it was either "suggested" or mandatory for the event from SRO - apparently all of the changes have been used at other SRO events.

Tbh the 4 minute stop feels OTT until you think it through and with so many SC periods in previous years, its likely that competitors will be able to deal with that one.

The stint length restriction and reducing a driver's maximum time to 2 hours 10 minutes instead of the traditntal 2 hours 30 minutes seems strange and commentating the "Joker" pit stops and who has and hasn't taken one in the relevant half of the race won't be the work of a moment.
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They were in use at the Spa 24 hours too.
* max stint length
* min pit stop time
* 1 mandatory 'technical' stop: you're not obliged to do something technical, just put the car in the pits for 5 minutes and you're OK. (Grasser did that at Spa)

Spa is also part of the IGTC, so that may be the reason. Let's see what happens at Suzuka later this year?

SRO also has the much hated Safety-Car-after-Full-Course-Yellow-procedure which they use in all of there races (Sprint and endurance) in Europe.
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Might as well set a minimum lap time as well, so that you can't buy your way to the front with a better car or driver.
BOP and driver ratings take care of that.

These are the exact same rules SRO uses in Blancpain. They were also in force for the Laguna Seca 8 Hours.

I get the minimum pits stops. It stops teams investing hundreds of thousands of [currency] in fancy gear to speed up refueling. This is in keeping with SRO's strong and correct policy of managing costs for the customers on whom their business depends. VLN/N24 does the same thing for the same reason.

It's the stint length stuff which sucks because stint and pitstop strategy is such a core part of endurance racing. They do it (and the FCY->SC idiocy) simply to ensure that the field stays bunched and they can spend the next year after the race posting clips of amazing last-10 min battles and boasting about how exciting the racing is, even it's almost entirely fake.
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Old 10 Aug 2019, 15:43 (Ref:3922192)   #14
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IGTC has been around for a few years and the B12 hasn't had these sorts of rules forced upon it....why does it have to fall in line with the others in 2020?


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These are the exact same rules SRO uses in Blancpain. They were also in force for the Laguna Seca 8 Hours.

I get the minimum pits stops. It stops teams investing hundreds of thousands of [currency] in fancy gear to speed up refueling. This is in keeping with SRO's strong and correct policy of managing costs for the customers on whom their business depends. VLN/N24 does the same thing for the same reason.

It's the stint length stuff which sucks because stint and pitstop strategy is such a core part of endurance racing. They do it (and the FCY->SC idiocy) simply to ensure that the field stays bunched and they can spend the next year after the race posting clips of amazing last-10 min battles and boasting about how exciting the racing is, even it's almost entirely fake.
So they don't want teams spending money on pit gear..... but they seem OK with GT3 costs spiralling year on year when it comes to the actual cars?
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The SRO rationale for the minimum pit stop times is to prevent costly and unbalancing investment in expensive kit. I am willing to buy that.

The 65-min stints I donít get. It removes all strategy from the race. Maybe thatís the point.
The 65 minute stint length is to make it easier to BoP the cars. That way you don't need to take into account the fuel flow rate (in car), the fuel fill rate (from the rig), and the fuel tank size.
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