2011 British F3 off Season/Silly season news etc (merge) - Page 8

formula_fan · 13 Jan 2011, 18:37 (Ref:2815342)

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Originally Posted by RF_Racer

Just out of interest what are British F3 budgets these days? I remember a few years ago they were around £750k per season.

I think a budget for a decent team is around this. The budgets for some other teams further down the field vary a lot more but are roughly between £450k and £600k depending on quality of the team.

Good to see Tincknell confirmed, still yet to see a real standout driver in it though for this year. I hope Carlin have got something up their sleeve as per normal! They still have another driver yet to announce don't they?

strider · 13 Jan 2011, 19:47 (Ref:2815369)

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Originally Posted by formula_fan

Good to see Tincknell confirmed, still yet to see a real standout driver in it though for this year. I hope Carlin have got something up their sleeve as per normal! They still have another driver yet to announce don't they?

As far as I can see it's between Magnussen and Nasr at the moment. As it's the sixth and last driver I don't think Carlin will have a revelation for us, but he could still be a contender.

**chunterer** · 13 Jan 2011, 20:14 (Ref:2815380)

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Originally Posted by strider

As far as I can see it's between Magnussen and Nasr at the moment. As it's the sixth and last driver I don't think Carlin will have a revelation for us, but he could still be a contender.

strider do you mean it's between those two as 'standout' drivers for the year?

strider · 13 Jan 2011, 20:29 (Ref:2815390)

Yes.

**chunterer** · 13 Jan 2011, 20:40 (Ref:2815398)

Ok, thought so, just checking.

Magnussen is the interesting one for me, If Vergne managed all those wins last season, maybe Kevin can go and try and beat his old man's record!

ivanalesi · 13 Jan 2011, 20:52 (Ref:2815407)

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Originally Posted by Morris Dancer

The 'reverse grid' - like the performance weight penalty - is a perversion of all that motorsport stands for. The best driver/car/team should win on merit, not because of a handicap advantage.

Can you imagine the Olympics or any other major world sport adopting such a system? Of course not.

If you just want to see a motorsport 'show', go to dirt-track speedway.

There is also another angle, usually at the front are those with the biggest unfair advantage - $$$. So the reverse grid races helps those w/o big budgets to get some extra publicity and chance to show that they're capable of leading a race from the front. These races are good for keeping the field numbers good & giving some hope to those at the back.

strider · 13 Jan 2011, 22:08 (Ref:2815438)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Magnussen is the interesting one for me, If Vergne managed all those wins last season, maybe Kevin can go and try and beat his old man's record!

I've been wondering about that one. However, even if he does it will be from 30 races, not 18 as Jan had!

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Originally Posted by ivanalesi

There is also another angle, usually at the front are those with the biggest unfair advantage - $$$. So the reverse grid races helps those w/o big budgets to get some extra publicity and chance to show that they're capable of leading a race from the front. These races are good for keeping the field numbers good & giving some hope to those at the back.

That's exactly the point, plus there are three races and the partly reversed grid is the shortest at 20 minutes.

Also, if it's good enough for FRenault 3.5 and GP2, it should be good enough for BF3.

NaBUru38 · 13 Jan 2011, 23:08 (Ref:2815458)

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Originally Posted by Morris Dancer

The 'reverse grid' - like the performance weight penalty - is a perversion of all that motorsport stands for. The best driver/car/team should win on merit, not because of a handicap advantage.

If you just want to see a motorsport 'show', go to dirt-track speedway.

I agree with that. There are several professional "show racing" championships too - Nascar, Argentine Top Race, Superleague Formula. Grid reversing makes sense in that type of championships. But not in those supposed to "educate" drivers like low-level formulas.

alias99 · 14 Jan 2011, 00:16 (Ref:2815480)

Tom Blomqvist is yet to sign. Its a long shot but he could end up at Carlin, that would make things quite interesting.

However in my opinion Magnussen is the one to beat this year. He should take the title followed by Nasr.

Peter Cammish · 15 Jan 2011, 14:04 (Ref:2816063)

I think it will be a Carlin driver but I am interested to know why Magnusson is favourite for the title, I think British F3 looks pretty open this year.

courageous · 15 Jan 2011, 14:21 (Ref:2816066)

Can somebody post the 2011 calander with actual dates (not just months) please - I can't find it anywhere

Go_For_Pole · 15 Jan 2011, 15:26 (Ref:2816085)

Indeed I can not understand why Magnussen is considered favorite. Ok he has a year's experience but in my opinion he is not as talented as Nasr and Harvey

kipper · 15 Jan 2011, 15:43 (Ref:2816091)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Can somebody post the 2011 calander with actual dates (not just months) please - I can't find it anywhere

15-16 Apr Monza
23-25 Apr (Saturday and Monday only) Oulton Park
14-15 May Snetterton
18-19 Jun Brands Hatch
16-17 Jul Paul Ricard
29-30 Jul Spa-Francorchamps
3-4 Sep Rockingham
10-11 Sep Nurburgring
24-25 Sep Donington
8-9 Oct Silverstone

dave not neil · 15 Jan 2011, 16:21 (Ref:2816100)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Indeed I can not understand why Magnussen is considered favorite. Ok he has a year's experience but in my opinion he is not as talented as Nasr and Harvey

He was comfortably quicker than both at Valencia...

formula_fan · 15 Jan 2011, 17:41 (Ref:2816115)

But I'm sure he would have known the Valencia track better than his rivals as he won a race in the Euroseries there this year. On the British tracks Nasr will be the one to beat, Harvey has a lot to learn to be challenging straight away.

strider · 15 Jan 2011, 21:38 (Ref:2816202)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Can somebody post the 2011 calander with actual dates (not just months) please - I can't find it anywhere

There's a whole lot more information here and you can download the season presentation as a PDF file.

You can also check out the Series' new logo.

dave not neil · 15 Jan 2011, 23:42 (Ref:2816241)

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Originally Posted by formula_fan

But I'm sure he would have known the Valencia track better than his rivals as he won a race in the Euroseries there this year. On the British tracks Nasr will be the one to beat, Harvey has a lot to learn to be challenging straight away.

They all ran together for 4 days, how much more time do they need!!

strider · 16 Jan 2011, 11:49 (Ref:2816324)

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They all ran together for 4 days, how much more time do they need!!

Very good point!

So far as Blomqvist is concerned, he tested with Fortec and I'm sure they would love to sign him, or maybe Double R.

Vintage Aston · 17 Jan 2011, 21:04 (Ref:2817023)

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Originally Posted by Morris Dancer

The 'reverse grid' - like the performance weight penalty - is a perversion of all that motorsport stands for. The best driver/car/team should win on merit, not because of a handicap advantage.

Can you imagine the Olympics or any other major world sport adopting such a system? Of course not.

If you just want to see a motorsport 'show', go to dirt-track speedway.

Why does golf have a handicap? And over there in Aussie land, isnt there a famous race run on handicap in Stawell? Its to show who has the true strength to beat all others - even if they start behind them.

Richard B · 18 Jan 2011, 20:39 (Ref:2817501)

Fairuz Fauzy joins Lotus Renault F1 as test driver:

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=42802

Another former British F3 driver gets a part time F1 role. No doubt this story
will be mentioned on the official F3 site along with Sergio Perez signing for Sauber, which still doesn't appear to have been acknowledged!

alias99 · 20 Jan 2011, 10:35 (Ref:2818203)

Foresti confirmed with Fortec now as well.

strider · 20 Jan 2011, 21:12 (Ref:2818524)

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Originally Posted by Richard B

Fairuz Fauzy joins Lotus Renault F1 as test driver:

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=42802

Another former British F3 driver gets a part time F1 role. No doubt this story
will be mentioned on the official F3 site along with Sergio Perez signing for Sauber, which still doesn't appear to have been acknowledged!

I actually prompted them to report the Sergio Perez signing, but they still did nothing.

There's supposed to be another website on the way, maybe with different people involved so the present ones have probably lost interest.

Richard B · 24 Jan 2011, 20:59 (Ref:2820089)

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Originally Posted by strider

There's supposed to be another website on the way, maybe with different people involved so the present ones have probably lost interest.

Official site seems to have been updated with 2011 race calendar,teams registered, and countdown to first race etc........so somebody is updating it. Maybe the Perez story will make it on there!

Frosty11 · 26 Jan 2011, 10:53 (Ref:2820756)

rarely heard hitech racing mentioned. Are they actually in british f3 this year and who do you think will be driving for them?

JVD · 26 Jan 2011, 15:09 (Ref:2820878)

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Originally Posted by Frosty11

rarely heard hitech racing mentioned. Are they actually in british f3 this year and who do you think will be driving for them?

Yeah it's weird.. I thought they had already confirmed Fantin but they didn't.. maybe Foresti will join Hitech?

And who is in the 6th Carlin car? Jaafar? or does he want to try 3.5 next to Vergne? because Carlin have only confirmed Vergne for the 3.5

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