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Old 17 Oct 2019, 17:58 (Ref:3935237)   #1101
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My Italian is not too hot, so can you give a synopsis of the article, it would be appreciated?

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George Russell doesn't fit. During the Japanese Grand Prix, he had to deal with brakes that ... didn't hold back on his Williams. Via radio he constantly complained about the dangerousness of the situation, but the team convinced him to continue. Numerous sets have been changed, but Russell at one point wanted to retire. His engineer disagreed and so the British driver saw the arrival not without having experienced some thrills. When he got out of the car, he clearly stated that this cannot go on.

Robert Kubica also complained. The Pole had already expressed dissatisfaction with the treatment he had received, as well as for the disastrous situation in which Williams fell, an F1 team that often found itself without spare parts. At Suzuka there was then the "yellow" of the new front wing, brought by the team in a single copy. Russell had rejected it at the end of the first free round, Kubica had instead found good during the second free round, had found improvements in his car, and was therefore convinced to find himself in qualifying. But this did not happen. Unbeknownst to him, his previous wing was mounted.

According to what Kubica told to it.motorsport, the order would not come from those who were on the track, but from those who were elsewhere. It is therefore legitimate to think of Claire Williams, the already discussed team principal of the Grove team who, again according to the impressions of the Polish driver, has not always acted with due correctness and this year as never before has been confused in the management of the team. It should not be forgotten that twelve months ago, the Russian sponsor SMP left Williams indignant for the improper treatment offered to their pilot Sergey Sirotkin.

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Old 17 Oct 2019, 18:15 (Ref:3935240)   #1102
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Old 18 Oct 2019, 07:53 (Ref:3935360)   #1103
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Maybe Claire is not the saviour. I had hoped she would do a great job and **** those up who complained purely because she's a woman.

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Old 25 Oct 2019, 15:50 (Ref:3936733)   #1105
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I still say it's poetic justice that after "sir" Frank Williams made his family second fiddle to his race team his whole life, once one of those second fiddle family members takes over his number one priority, it gets run into the ground.

Not that I want claire Williams to fail. I'd like to see her be successful.
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Old 25 Oct 2019, 18:20 (Ref:3936760)   #1106
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A bit harsh imo.

Cant speak to the internal workings of another persons family but from my own experience of growing up and now working within a family run business...there is no seperation between business and family. They are one and the same and the kids grow up around the same kitchen table where the work and talk of business is carried out.

The success of one requires the success of the other. No doubt there are challenges growing up with a uniquely resolute parent but here i see children very much focused on continuing their family's work.

As an aside (and complete speculation on my part) i would think SFW's disability makes his family far more important to him then a second fiddle.

Anyways just my two cents as an armchair shrink
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Old 27 Oct 2019, 07:57 (Ref:3937063)   #1107
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Another classic TV shot of Ms Williams looking bewildered in the Garage on her own at a TV monitor station - except when the camera panned onto her she was looking at her phone until she realised and then looked up at the screens trying to look interested....
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I still say it's poetic justice that after "sir" Frank Williams made his family second fiddle to his race team his whole life, once one of those second fiddle family members takes over his number one priority, it gets run into the ground.



Not that I want claire Williams to fail. I'd like to see her be successful.


Just curious about the inverted commas around “sir”. Is there some question about the validity of SFW’s knighthood?
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Old 4 Nov 2019, 09:42 (Ref:3938479)   #1109
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Yes, to me it is clearly a financial shortage calling for retiring cars to save parts.... given their usual qualifying position, they are not saving engine parts and transmissions to save having to take grid penalties for replacements. They start rear of grid other than others that have taken penalties for new components.
Mileage on parts should be less of an issue than that of many teams. They only run in Q1.
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Old 4 Nov 2019, 10:06 (Ref:3938486)   #1110
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Old 4 Nov 2019, 10:07 (Ref:3938487)   #1111
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And roughly 2 laps less per GP too.
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Old 3 Dec 2019, 22:19 (Ref:3944637)   #1112
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So Two day test, Russel half a day , Latiffi Half a day - one would have thought he needs every KM available. Some Israeli nobody a FULL DAY!!!! The team is carrying on like a second rate 80’s F3 team. So sad to see
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So Two day test, Russel half a day , Latiffi Half a day - one would have thought he needs every KM available. Some Israeli nobody a FULL DAY!!!! The team is carrying on like a second rate 80’s F3 team. So sad to see
Can they learn much from this platform though? It doesn't seem like much should transfer to next season so might as well earn cash letting a rich kid play. I'm guessing an old F1 car or 2 had made it to Latifi to go play.
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Unfortunately money talks. It would be nice for Latifi to get a bit more mileage, but it’s better to get it in the 2020 car
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money does talk but i doubt the amount he’s paying will put a dent in their annual budget

we don’t know what their testing programme is either. and nobody knows how much running latifi or nissany have done in the heritage and customer programmes too. this assumption they need someone to rinse the last half second out of the car isn’t necessarily a valid one.
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money does talk but i doubt the amount he’s paying will put a dent in their annual budget

we don’t know what their testing programme is either. and nobody knows how much running latifi or nissany have done in the heritage and customer programmes too. this assumption they need someone to rinse the last half second out of the car isn’t necessarily a valid one.
I strongly feel the extra time factor isn't even on their mind. It's about cash flow and trying to woo a potential sponsor deal rather than the direct cash influx from his time in seat. It's this year's car with next year's tires, they aren't running any early parts for testing I don;t believe so what's the time lost really? And I'm guessing Latifi has run more than a few rounds in the heritage cars.
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I think Latifi also took part in half a dozen Friday FP1's this year.... as well as laps in pre season testing (Nissany also took part in pre season testing for Williams.)
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i havent looked at any of the timing data for the test and everyone is just using the last name...so i assumed everyone was talking about Chanoch Nissany.

i even went so far to look at Chanoch's wiki page to figure out how old he was and while typing out a response here (something like why would Williams run a 56 year old???) it dawned on me that i must be missing something very obvious!
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It’s his son Roy I think. Nissany Sr famously drove the Minardi in Friday practice for the 2005 Hungarian GP at the age of 42! Hardly surprising, he didn’t start karting till his mid 30s. He infamously got the nickname Stirling Mossad
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money does talk but i doubt the amount he’s paying will put a dent in their annual budget

we don’t know what their testing programme is either. and nobody knows how much running latifi or nissany have done in the heritage and customer programmes too. this assumption they need someone to rinse the last half second out of the car isn’t necessarily a valid one.
How much do we think it costs for a day in an F1 car?...
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Um...

https://www.williamsf1.com/racing/ne...driver-academy

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Williams has released some video of Dan's simulator work. It looks like he continues to struggle to get past his old issues however.

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