BTCC BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! - Page 76

Pickles · 14 Dec 2019, 17:30 (Ref:3946713)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Warren and Robert Scott are the only 2 directors of the company and it is listed as still being at Buntingford so I doubt if the Moffats have bought anything tangible, just the TBL's.

Don't know then, just going by what the ex BMR employee told me last week. You'd assume he'd know.

Div · 14 Dec 2019, 17:37 (Ref:3946718)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

Don't know then, just going by what the ex BMR employee told me last week. You'd assume he'd know.

I don't believe BMR racing actually ever owned the cars or TBLs on paper, so they were never theirs to sell to Laser.
Imagine the entity BMR Racing will be quietly dissolved especially as the Speedway team is no longer in existence either.

crmalcolm · 14 Dec 2019, 17:44 (Ref:3946720)

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Originally Posted by Div

I don't believe BMR racing actually ever owned the cars or TBLs on paper, so they were never theirs to sell to Laser.
Imagine the entity BMR Racing will be quietly dissolved especially as the Speedway team is no longer in existence either.

Cars were leased, the charges for which were settled around the time Bob Moffat paid a visit to BMR's HQ.
The TBLs were owned.

Pickles · 14 Dec 2019, 17:44 (Ref:3946721)

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Originally Posted by Div

I don't believe BMR racing actually ever owned the cars or TBLs on paper, so they were never theirs to sell to Laser.
Imagine the entity BMR Racing will be quietly dissolved especially as the Speedway team is no longer in existence either.

I suspect you're right about the cars, I assume the TBL's are the ones originally acquired by Warren from Team HARD when BMR took over? EDIT - Beat me to it Crmalcolm 😂

aland · 14 Dec 2019, 19:16 (Ref:3946743)

the moffats bought more than tbl's, you dont take an artic to pick up bits of paper then do a 2nd trip with a landy and trailer

mark_l · 14 Dec 2019, 21:44 (Ref:3946767)

It seems the BMR empire doesn't stop growing.

BMR Dirt - founded 25/09/19
BMR Composites - founded 24/10/19

Pickles · 14 Dec 2019, 22:29 (Ref:3946773)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

It seems the BMR empire doesn't stop growing.

BMR Dirt - founded 25/09/19
BMR Composites - founded 24/10/19

I'm not sure it's growing, they've lost the kart track, Speedway and BTCC...

porsche962fan · 14 Dec 2019, 23:02 (Ref:3946778)

did JP get his money back ?

mark_l · 15 Dec 2019, 12:33 (Ref:3946830)

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Originally Posted by Pickles

I'm not sure it's growing, they've lost the kart track, Speedway and BTCC...

If you consider that Robert Scott is related to Warren Scott then the Scott's still control more than it appears.

Pickles · 15 Dec 2019, 12:46 (Ref:3946833)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

If you consider that Robert Scott is related to Warren Scott then the Scott's still control more than it appears.

Scott and Scott is a huge company, but it's pretty well known that the kart track has gone, as has Triple Eight, and Laser have bought what's left of the BTCC team. Presumably the biofuel side of the business is still going strong and they're now looking at non motorsport related areas to expand into.

Alfisti · 15 Dec 2019, 13:52 (Ref:3946836)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Assuming the Honda you refer to is the BTC 3rd car?

On a pedantic note, I don't think they've confirmed a new build - but yes, I think the final count for new builds is expected to be 8, so bang on average.

Not confirmed anywhere I know but I hear Dynamics are busy. And not with the preparation of sprouts for Christmas dinner!

crmalcolm · 15 Dec 2019, 14:05 (Ref:3946842)

So, when the 2021 thread starts, is BMR's finances the latest item to add to the 10/10ths canon along with Kia, Volvo and which drivers have their own TBLs?

Alfisti · 15 Dec 2019, 18:27 (Ref:3946876)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

So, when the 2021 thread starts, is BMR's finances the latest item to add to the 10/10ths canon along with Kia, Volvo and which drivers have their own TBLs?

(Not wanting to make any frivolity)

Has anyone read/ heard anything regarding Sam Tordoff?

Pickles · 15 Dec 2019, 20:21 (Ref:3946887)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

(Not wanting to make any frivolity)

Has anyone read/ heard anything regarding Sam Tordoff?

Nothing official, I think everyone has just assumed that he'll be taking a year out.

Greem · 16 Dec 2019, 13:14 (Ref:3946968)

I've just seen a paraphrased quote from Nissan UK's annual report that the parent company is withdrawing the Infiniti brand from Europe. Not sure where that leaves the NGTC cars in future.

antnee · 16 Dec 2019, 13:44 (Ref:3946971)

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Originally Posted by Greem

I've just seen a paraphrased quote from Nissan UK's annual report that the parent company is withdrawing the Infiniti brand from Europe. Not sure where that leaves the NGTC cars in future.

That was initially announced back in March of this year. I believe that the model only has to be on sale when first homologated. This is why the MGs, FK2 Civics, Focus, A-Class, VW CC's etc were all still on the grid in 2019.

Pickles · 16 Dec 2019, 14:56 (Ref:3946981)

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Originally Posted by antnee

That was initially announced back in March of this year. I believe that the model only has to be on sale when first homologated. This is why the MGs, FK2 Civics, Focus, A-Class, VW CC's etc were all still on the grid in 2019.

Correct.

crmalcolm · 16 Dec 2019, 15:20 (Ref:3946986)

From btcc.net

'Base vehicle must be freely on sale in the UK through the manufacturer’s normal dealer network at time of homologation'

I don't recall any mention of support from Infiniti by Laser Tools, so I don't see their withdrawal from the UK market having any effect on the existing cars.

S griffin · 16 Dec 2019, 15:42 (Ref:3946991)

The two Infiniti cars are in private hands, so can’t see how the manufacturer withdrawing in Europe affecting the BTCC

redshoes · 16 Dec 2019, 16:40 (Ref:3946994)

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Originally Posted by antnee

That was initially announced back in March of this year. I believe that the model only has to be on sale when first homologated. This is why the MGs, FK2 Civics, Focus, A-Class, VW CC's etc were all still on the grid in 2019.

And homologation remains valid until 5 years after the model is no longer on sale. Even if Infiniti ended sales now the car could still be usable for the foreseeable future.

mark_l · 16 Dec 2019, 16:45 (Ref:3946996)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

The two Infiniti cars are in private hands, so can’t see how the manufacturer withdrawing in Europe affecting the BTCC

There may only be an issue if the shells get trashed, apart from that the rest is probably standardised items so shouldn't be an problem with spare parts.

Alfisti · 16 Dec 2019, 18:11 (Ref:3947012)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

There may only be an issue if the shells get trashed, apart from that the rest is probably standardised items so shouldn't be an problem with spare parts.

The car continues to be available on other continents; so somewhere a factory is making bits that could no doubt be obtained by Laser if needed.

mark_l · 16 Dec 2019, 18:18 (Ref:3947014)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

The car continues to be available on other continents; so somewhere a factory is making bits that could no doubt be obtained by Laser if needed.

If Aiden gets desperate there is always ebay (other sites are available).

Jay87 · 16 Dec 2019, 19:47 (Ref:3947022)

Looks like Jordan has an announcement on the 18th

Evantra · 16 Dec 2019, 19:53 (Ref:3947023)

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Originally Posted by Jay87

Looks like Jordan has an announcement on the 18th

https://twitter.com/andrewjordan77/s...763892225?s=21

"A new era." Looks like he's out of the BTCC. Or I suppose that could just be the start with a new sponsor.

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