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That's what I like. Someone able to organise things doing so...
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i'm glad someone took over and gave a definite set of rules.
how do we submit, if it's anon? and how do we stop people voting for their own? |
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ok, yes, fair enough on the voting.
so i send an email, or a ten tenths mail? i'm confused instructions for the idiot? |
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[QUOTE=gungadan][*]If people submit their two *best ever* photos, and they are used commercially, they then might regret the fact they can no longer give someone else exclusive rights (subject to the usual agreements).
Then if they think they might regret it they have a choice not to enter. What's the big deal, no-one is holding a gun to your head.... It's a nice idea but I don't see why it should take that much effort to set up. Also, I don't know the details of T-Ts finances but it appears to be, at least partially, a commercial operation. Personally I like to give credit where it is due. Someone has taken it upon themselves to organise something for us to contribute to and enjoy, and regardless of how much work is or isn't involved in it, they deserve a pat on the back. After all, no-one was holding a gun to their head either. Are you normally happy to give your photos away? I don't see why it's so different to this thread from a couple of months ago which caused quite a fuss: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98943 But we're not talking about giving your photo away, you're merely allowing it to (maybe) be used on a website, perhaps a calendar, or maybe some promotional material. And I would also point out that the 'stir' you refer to was generally about people providing images for free, and upsetting the pro's by taking business away from them. Unfortunately many of us got our first break into motorsport photography by providing free images to websites etc that would not otherwise have been able to pay for them, and in that respect it was a 2 way thing, as we were able to gain accreditation for events. If you're that protective of your IP, images etc, don't enter. You seem to be making all the right arguments for it....... Can you not try to look for the positives in it instead....please...? |
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The issue I raised is continually discussed on this forum. The rules don't suddenly change just because it's something TT are proposing. If TT add a note to their rules along the lines of: "If TT decide to use the images submitted for a commercial venture, we will take responsibilty for seeking permissions from the relevant sources." then everything will be hunky-dorey. Why would you not want that kind of assurance? Why would you argue against it?? And what's with the red? And all those ellipses? You seem to be taking this very personally! I'm really not trying to be a pain or negative (honest) just being practical. I might be being over cautious but better safe than sorry, I say. PS I hope you all appreciate my quoting skills here That took *ages* to format! |
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If you want people to want exclusive rights they need to see it.
If you're so bloody worried, don't enter. I'd be honoured if someone used my photo, and hopefully it'd help me toward a career in the business, as it would prove a point of sorts. Stop raining on the parade, and let the competition be a laugh. |
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PS Here's an extract from T&Cs on the back of an entry ticket to Silverstone: The use of photography equipment is allowed for private purposes only. All other recording and any transmission is prohibited. As a condition of entry to the event you assign (by way of present assignment of future copyright) the copyright in any photographs or recordings you make at the event to Octagon. |
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why don't we all just move on now....good luck to all who enter.....
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Yes, i agree. Can i just briefly go back, and say that i know i can't use the pictures i've taken til now in a commercial capacity, and don't intend to. This is not a commercial thing at all.
But yes, good luck; and may the best photoist win! |
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Well to cut through the whole issue here are some clarifications.... We intend to use the pictures on the Ten-Tenths website, in a gallery, for the purposes of the contest and also leave them online for future viewing. We may rotate them randomly on the very front page of the site. We may use them to promote the existance of the contest on other websites associated or run by Ten-Tenths, for example www.parcferme.com.
Regarding the production of a 2008 calendar with the winning pic and 12 others for members to buy through CafePress... frankly the IP issue isn't worth the hassle so if anyone wants to print out their favourite pics and send me the $2 commission we would have put on a CafePress calender then they can do so! Oh, and if whoever does win looks at the small-print on the back of their ticket or media accredation and discovers that the copyright of the pic they've taken belongs to Octagon or MSV, the MSA, BRDA or whoever, then I'm sure they'll do the right thing and send them the trophy. |
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hi i am new to the site how do i enter the Competition
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well they will give us an address (email?) to send two pictures to. That is it.
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Your wish would appear to be their command!
Well done, now go win it... Though you gotta get past me first! Care to place a beer bet on this? Highest place wins between us two. |
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