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Old 12 Sep 2017, 23:28 (Ref:3766407)   #151
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Prototype cars now look like the builders read this thread and tried hard to be the winner for the ugliest.
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Old 12 Sep 2017, 23:30 (Ref:3766408)   #152
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Without a doubt.
This car is not a prototype, it is a TC (Turismo Carretera), a category of touring cars traditional from Argentina with 80 years old. They use as base the cars sold in Argentina in the 70's to which they then completely modify.
The car of the photo that you published is a Ford Falcon and this is the original.
http://www.todofalcon.com.ar/Fotos/Sp22.jpg
They are also used Renault Torino, Dodge Polara RT and Chevy coupe 250.
http://www.cosasdeautos.com.ar/wp-co...no-Renault.jpg
https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://...1bf6f3f7_o.jpg
https://http2.mlstatic.com/franjas-v...2_072015-F.jpg

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turismo_Carretera

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and those are some of the most well put together looking cars in the country! The only things that look less sketchy are the TC/Super TC2000 cars.

There's a series in Argentina that has cars that look like American Modifieds, just as if someone had described how they looked to the person building it without showing any pictures.

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I'd love to show you the Argentinian monstrosity, I just don't know the name of the series.

Edit:// FOUND EM. Apparently called "TC Zonal" cars.

This TC Zonal are categories of very very low budget with cars armed in very small garages. The term Zonal comes from the word Zona that refers to a municipality o City determined, so that the category runs its entire calendar on 1 or 2 tracks nearby as much, in some cases with earth circuits.

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Absolutely.

The cars themselves look horrendous and thrown together 95% of the time though.

Super TC2000 are definitely the most "put together well" looking cars they've got, and they still seem a little off.
The Super TC 2000 is the only category with official teams of the brands.
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 01:53 (Ref:3766422)   #153
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Surprised nobody has posted the Abruzzi yet. The definition of grotesque, especially after the awesome LMP1 and Esperante GT2.

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Old 13 Sep 2017, 04:47 (Ref:3766433)   #154
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 07:24 (Ref:3766447)   #155
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Surprised nobody has posted the Abruzzi yet. The definition of grotesque, especially after the awesome LMP1 and Esperante GT2.

I was going to post it actually

ugly car and senseless name considering that abruzzi is an italian region that basically hasn't any motorsport heritage
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 10:05 (Ref:3766472)   #156
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I think we have a new winner in the Abruzzi, hideous thing
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 10:17 (Ref:3766481)   #157
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I think we have a new winner in the Abruzzi, hideous thing


Nah it's not too bad compared to some of those Argentinian monstrosities. Every time someone quotes that post I look away from the screen hoping they'll go away lol
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 12:36 (Ref:3766525)   #158
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This car is not a prototype, it is a TC (Turismo Carretera), a category of touring cars traditional from Argentina with 80 years old. They use as base the cars sold in Argentina in the 70's to which they then completely modify.
The car of the photo that you published is a Ford Falcon and this is the original.
http://www.todofalcon.com.ar/Fotos/Sp22.jpg
They are also used Renault Torino, Dodge Polara RT and Chevy coupe 250.
http://www.cosasdeautos.com.ar/wp-co...no-Renault.jpg
https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://...1bf6f3f7_o.jpg
https://http2.mlstatic.com/franjas-v...2_072015-F.jpg

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turismo_Carretera



This TC Zonal are categories of very very low budget with cars armed in very small garages. The term Zonal comes from the word Zona that refers to a municipality o City determined, so that the category runs its entire calendar on 1 or 2 tracks nearby as much, in some cases with earth circuits.



The Super TC 2000 is the only category with official teams of the brands.
I never said they were prototypes, just that y'all have the ugliest racecars in the world, and most of them look like they've been cobbled together from spare parts in a shed.
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 13:38 (Ref:3766546)   #159
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This one looks like it needs to sit a bit taller and have some off-road tires on it and some spares in that hatch. Kinda reminds me of an old version of some of the Dakar "cars" of the last while.

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I actually really like this one, it looks like someone had a weird kit GT car in a barn and then saw a picture of a Chaparral and was like "hey, we could do something like that with it!"

Do we have names for them?
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 15:24 (Ref:3766566)   #160
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Argentina and Brazil are the leaders in the "racecars that look like they were built in a shed over the weekend while consuming hundreds of beers" category.
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There's a series in Argentina that has cars that look like American Modifieds, just as if someone had described how they looked to the person building it without showing any pictures.
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it looks like someone had a weird kit GT car in a barn and then saw a picture of a Chaparral and was like "hey, we could do something like that with it!"
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 16:49 (Ref:3766592)   #161
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 17:17 (Ref:3766606)   #162
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 17:40 (Ref:3766609)   #163
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Without this car this topic is not complete.
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 17:42 (Ref:3766611)   #164
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Some weird sports prototypes from Argentina:

Is it based on the Opel GT?

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Correct, but they looked well put together for the most part.
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 18:14 (Ref:3766617)   #166
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Without this car this topic is not complete.
You, out, too!!
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Old 13 Sep 2017, 18:56 (Ref:3766626)   #167
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Is it based on the Opel GT?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_GT
It is based on an Argentine car called Berganin, totally modified.
The nickname of the car was "La Garrafa" (gas bottle) because the sponsor was Agip and the driver was Andrea Viannini.

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Correct, but they looked well put together for the most part.
As far as those DP's, they're not what I would call well put together, in terms of safety or performance. But were debating opinions which is pointless. I like the Touring cars in Argentina.

I was going to post the DW, but it's always been touchy subject!
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This one looks like it needs to sit a bit taller and have some off-road tires on it and some spares in that hatch. Kinda reminds me of an old version of some of the Dakar "cars" of the last while.

I actually really like this one, it looks like someone had a weird kit GT car in a barn and then saw a picture of a Chaparral and was like "hey, we could do something like that with it!"

Do we have names for them?
These cars are part of a golden era of Argentine motorsport of the late 60's and early 70's, that were raced in the TC and in the Sport Prototipo Argentino.
The regulations were always very free the first years demanded the use of the front windshield of the road car from which they derived, some years later demanded a minimum height then appeared the egg shape of the roof of some cars and finally nothing and also arrived the spyders.
Some of the cars were Pronello-Ford, Berta LR, Torino Liebre MK I,MK II,MK III, Gentile-Chevrolet, Baufer-Chevrolet, Numa-Tornado, Chelco-Chevrolet etc.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Rmnsspyhg...onello-ford.JP
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0a/ec...0687ab5533.jpg
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NBH4iV8xf4...600/baufer.JPG
https://www.autodato.com/wp-content/...rd-1969-01.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-JgMdC8MyqQ...pz3%5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.f1-web.com.ar/galeria/baufer-chevun-1.JPG
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/e7...9899f8cf27.jpg
http://clasicosyespeciales.com.ar/wp.../PANIZZA42.jpg
http://sportprototipoargentino.blogs...1971-1972.html

These are images of an Argentine film of that time that shows the cars and the atmosphere.
https://www.facebook.com/proyectotor...4986883716339/
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Siempre te amare (1971) and the main actor was Sandro.

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Siempre te amare (1971) and the main actor was Sandro.

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I was going to post the DW, but it's always been touchy subject!
As long as we don't go back to the puerile silly names for it, I think it's fine.
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