Wayne.... The Movie

[GTRMagic]

Story Here

[Sandgroper]

Cool............

[Trevor]

wonder how many will show up and watch it

[Forda]

Will be interesting to see the split between Wayne's 2 and 4 wheel racing exploits.

From the preview, it looks like it might predominantly be focused on the motorcycling chapter?

[Trev Campbell]

Hope it gets a general release so we can see it in states other than Vic

[Kingair]

If it doesn’t do or survive the cinema circuit, it is normally out on DVD within three months.

Captain Chaos is back!

[Razor]

So it's a doco, not a "drama" like that pathetic excuse of a mini-series that was Brock?

[Trevor]

People who know the man are not fans of him, they think it is good he lives overseas - seems he has burnt a few here with his ego

[Umai Naa]

Yeah, I can't see myself watching it.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Trevor

People who know the man are not fans of him, they think it is good he lives overseas - seems he has burnt a few here with his ego

Funny, he has a huge fan base OS especially Japan so he might not be too worried. I think the biggest problem here was his desire to win was bigger than the local drivers were used to. They operated at a level lower than he did as it was more comfortable for them, a bit like an old boys club could be a good way to put it. To them WG was a loose cannon who upset the agenda that they had been working on for years. Walkinshaw did the same but he had the backing and know how to win at the same time. I can recall very clearly the night before the Bathurst race when Walkinshaw ran the Jags, a table of people in a restaurant tried to convince me the locals were going to wipe the floor with him and I couldn't stop laughing long enough to convince them otherwise.

[Forda]

Originally Posted by Casper

Funny, he has a huge fan base OS especially Japan so he might not be too worried. I think the biggest problem here was his desire to win was bigger than the local drivers were used to. They operated at a level lower than he did as it was more comfortable for them, a bit like an old boys club could be a good way to put it. To them WG was a loose cannon who upset the agenda that they had been working on for years. Walkinshaw did the same but he had the backing and know how to win at the same time. I can recall very clearly the night before the Bathurst race when Walkinshaw ran the Jags, a table of people in a restaurant tried to convince me the locals were going to wipe the floor with him and I couldn't stop laughing long enough to convince them otherwise.

Recall WG himself describing the local series as "a bit of an old boys club", back in the 90's.

Not sure that necessarily meant his desire to win was greater than his then-competitors though - the results certainly didn't reflect that during that 90's era.

[one five five]

Were his V8 results really that bad in the whole scheme of things?

Two Bathurst podiums in his first four starts

Won a PJ Dash and the second AGP support race in his first season driving for an at the time pretty awful HRT setup

Then has a crack with his own team

He is remembered unfairly for his V8 career, at the same time he was racing for Toyota in Japanese GT (now SuperGT) and winning races there.

Gardner single-handedly put world motorcycle racing on the map here in Australia, and overseas is revered for his bravery on a 500cc two-stroke. I'll certainly be watching this doco with great interest

[Sandgroper]

He is an Australian Legend no matter what !
Be it car racing or bikes.

[chavez]

I’m in.

Maybe not as talented as Mick Doohan, but surely a more interesting character.

[Just Do It!]

At the time, it would be fair to say, that he had the best presented team.

The back story of just the V8 team would be fascinating, I'm sure.

[275 GTB-4]

Originally Posted by one five five

Gardner single-handedly put world motorcycle racing on the map here in Australia, ,,,,

That's a big statement...a few went before who had some success as well...

Wayne? can we see a doco on Mr Rainey too sometime?

[one five five]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

That's a big statement...a few went before who had some success as well...

Certainly, but it was Wayne's successes that convinced SBS to pick up the rights to the 500cc World Championship, and Gardner's 1987 Championship win that convinced Ch9 to takeover the rights (and Barry Sheene) which gave the series a much bigger platform in this country. Couple that with Gardner's title win being an instrumental piece in getting Australia and Phillip Island a round of the world championship, and Gardner's inaugural win there, at a time when any Australian sporting success on the world stage was huge news

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

can we see a doco on Mr Rainey too sometime?

Would absolutely love to see that too

[Casper]

Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

That's a big statement...a few went before who had some success as well...

Wayne? can we see a doco on Mr Rainey too sometime?

One of which I know personally and none of them had the exposure of Gardner perhaps because Honda had become aware of how to promote racing. In fact the other Australian world champion for Honda pre dating Gardner would as a rule be totally unknown here.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Casper

In fact the other Australian world champion for Honda pre dating Gardner would as a rule be totally unknown here.

Tom Phillis?

[Forda]

"It's a love story" - some insight on the film from the director, and from Wayne:

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/ent...03-p4zvd8.html

Focus appears to be on Motorcycle racing, if Wayne's words are to mean anything:

Gardner knows the feeling, of course. He still rides – four years ago, he established a legends circuit, and he is confident it is on the brink of going global – and after retiring from the GP circuit in 1992 he had a reasonably successful stint in car racing.
"That was good, but it wasn't fulfilling the same thrill as racing a motorcycle at warp three," he says. "Racing cars was fun but it isn't that ultimate challenge of playing with your life, so it never quite filled the gap. But it was a good distraction."

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Casper

Funny, he has a huge fan base OS especially Japan so he might not be too worried. I think the biggest problem here was his desire to win was bigger than the local drivers were used to. They operated at a level lower than he did as it was more comfortable for them, a bit like an old boys club could be a good way to put it. To them WG was a loose cannon who upset the agenda that they had been working on for years. Walkinshaw did the same but he had the backing and know how to win at the same time. I can recall very clearly the night before the Bathurst race when Walkinshaw ran the Jags, a table of people in a restaurant tried to convince me the locals were going to wipe the floor with him and I couldn't stop laughing long enough to convince them otherwise.

Good post! Took the spotlight off a lot of wannabees and never wouldbees.

[Just Do It!]

i read a piece by Craig Lowndes (likely ghost-written, but...!) and he was recalling how Gardner told him he'd never be a champion or amount to anything.

Gardner won only one race in his V8 time, of course

[Forda]

Originally Posted by Just Do It!

i read a piece by Craig Lowndes (likely ghost-written, but...!) and he was recalling how Gardner told him he'd never be a champion or amount to anything.

Gardner won only one race in his V8 time, of course

Interesting post!

Not quite sure how a divorce could ever be be a "love story"?

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Just Do It!

i read a piece by Craig Lowndes (likely ghost-written, but...!) and he was recalling how Gardner told him he'd never be a champion or amount to anything.

Gardner won only one race in his V8 time, of course

A lot of short memories here. Lowndes went OS and for want of a better phrase couldn't hack it so in a sense he did not achieve to anywhere near his potential. Gardner went and became world champion.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Forda

Focus appears to be on Motorcycle racing, if Wayne's words are to mean anything:

Given the fact his four-wheeled exploits likely will have little interest to the European audiences, and it was a bit-part at the end of an International career, that likely explains why there won't be much attention paid to it. This is a bike story, not a car one

Graeme Crosby is someone who downplays his car racing career too, it barely rates a mention in his autobiography despite him taking to it like a duck to water, made the Bathurst Top 10 at his first attempt amongst other things

Originally Posted by Just Do It!

i read a piece by Craig Lowndes (likely ghost-written, but...!) and he was recalling how Gardner told him he'd never be a champion or amount to anything.

Gardner won only one race in his V8 time, of course

Gardner probably said that after Lowndes punted Gardner off in a straightline at the Bathurst ATCC round in 1996. Gardner and plenty of others (even HRT from memory) were very critical of Lowndes driving there, he obviously learned from it. (Johnson criticised Lowndes driving at Sandown a round earlier as well)

Lowndes obviously took the criticism on board and learnt from it

Originally Posted by Forda

Not quite sure how a divorce could ever be be a "love story"?

The divorce happened after the bike career was over, and they are still friendly (Donna wrote the forward for Wayne's book)

The travelled the world together as Gardner chased success, and they achieved it together. I'd call that a love story.