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Old 19 Aug 2019, 15:49 (Ref:3923393)   #46
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For what it's worth, SC365 is reporting that Magnus Racing may shut down or scale back involvement in IMSA at the end of the season.

Just like rumors of Core pulling out of DPI at least in part due to Jon Bennet retiring, Magnus owner John Potter rumored to be retiring from driving is suspected to be the reason for the shut down or scaling back.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 17:03 (Ref:3923408)   #47
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For what it's worth, SC365 is reporting that Magnus Racing may shut down or scale back involvement in IMSA at the end of the season.

Just like rumors of Core pulling out of DPI at least in part due to Jon Bennet retiring, Magnus owner John Potter rumored to be retiring from driving is suspected to be the reason for the shut down or scaling back.
That would be a real bummer as Magnus adds so much entertainment to the series, plus being a great on-track performer.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 17:57 (Ref:3923410)   #48
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For what it's worth, SC365 is reporting that Magnus Racing may shut down or scale back involvement in IMSA at the end of the season.

Just like rumors of Core pulling out of DPI at least in part due to Jon Bennet retiring, Magnus owner John Potter rumored to be retiring from driving is suspected to be the reason for the shut down or scaling back.
Sadly I think it's NAEC at best and only if he finds another driver like himself who wants to run the car with less investment than starting his own program. Think Potter and company might be hitting the Porsche and Super Trofeo paddocks working them for stepping up to the 'big show' with a program already up and running and a crew who appears to know their car and stuff.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 19:20 (Ref:3923431)   #49
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Only hear stuff about teams leaving IMSA in 2020. Not arriving. Mangus, CORE, Ford, Keating, JDC, Juncos, Perform Tech.

Might be a down year for IMSA in 2020 in terms of numbers at least. We'll see but regardless its not the end of the world. There have been down years before and recoveries after that. If the Daytona 24 is in the low 40's in grid size I think it will still be a great race worth watching.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 19:34 (Ref:3923433)   #50
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Only hear stuff about teams leaving IMSA in 2020. Not arriving. Mangus, CORE, Ford, Keating, JDC, Juncos, Perform Tech.

Might be a down year for IMSA in 2020 in terms of numbers at least. We'll see but regardless its not the end of the world. There have been down years before and recoveries after that. If the Daytona 24 is in the low 40's in grid size I think it will still be a great race worth watching.
That is sadly true, but we always seem to have the same couple top teams coming back thankfully. If we hear GM and Porsche rumblings, well then pack up the tent it's over folks.

I am hopeful teams can make the gap until DPi 2.0 gives the entire field a boost, if not in car count it may get the attention of others who have been on the fringe (owners, drivers, manufacturers, teams) to ride the new marketability of the series. Yes, it's kind of false marketing because they really aren't doing anything new or exciting and it's a spec part but marketing guys seem to spin anything and hybrid is the cool(ish) buzzword. And people still grow up, have kids and move to the suburbs, fewer than in the past but it still happens. Those people still need a car and while the ads may move from Car and Driver and TV to Instagram, Facebook Live (for as long as that behemoth lasts) or other social media, the advertising still remains and pictures/short clips of a car that says Acura, Hyundai, Mazda etc may be just what they need for the budget to run the car. Or maybe I'm being optimistic in finding a way for racing to survive.
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Old 19 Aug 2019, 22:08 (Ref:3923452)   #51
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IMSA desperately needs to allow an Oreca-Gibson and/or a Ligier-Gibson DPi to enter the top class. That would allow any team to enter the the class without dealing with OEM politics.
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IMSA desperately needs to allow an Oreca-Gibson and/or a Ligier-Gibson DPi to enter the top class. That would allow any team to enter the the class without dealing with OEM politics.
No one took up that offer even with Core and JDC Miller winning previously so why would someone who has an extra chassis modify their car to DPi pace without being able to use it anywhere else? It didn't look like anyone was interested in doing so, if not teams had taken that in the past we may not have seen the cars split.
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No one took up that offer even with Core and JDC Miller winning previously so why would someone who has an extra chassis modify their car to DPi pace without being able to use it anywhere else? It didn't look like anyone was interested in doing so, if not teams had taken that in the past we may not have seen the cars split.
Last year IMSA did not really alter the performance of the P2's. They BoP'ed everyone else down to the P2 pace. IMSA should take a different approach and bring the Oreca 07 up to DPi pace (give more HP, take away weight, etc).
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Old 21 Aug 2019, 02:29 (Ref:3923577)   #54
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No can do right now by agreement with the ACO. LMP2s have to be approximately equal to ACO specs.
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No can do right now by agreement with the ACO. LMP2s have to be approximately equal to ACO specs.
I don't think that's what it says, they've never said that that I've seen. However, the team taking the Trueman award I believe has to run a compliant LMP2 and a sped up car would not meet that. But even then I think it's just an LMP2 that can be entered at LM so they could return to standard spec and done.

But would Gibson support an engine outside of the specs? They know how it does now but would they let someone run it up with more power? Or would a team be willing to pay the development costs? Doubt it would be a free click a few times and done upgrade, especially with the engine developed to specific standard, cost and use cycle
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Remember that DPIs had to be repeatedly cranked back until this season to approx. LMP2 speeds. Even though IMSA added weight to the LMP2s late last season (and I'm assuming this season), that was done with ACO approval. Also, LMP2 initially was the spec that was baseline for DPI performance. However, DPIs were allowed development that base LMP2s weren't, which was a big reason for the pegging back of DPIs the past couple of years until this season.

That all being said, if the ACO and IMSA did allow a power boost for LMP2s in IMSA, it's probably doable. The 4.5 liter Gibson V8 that Rebellion is using is based on the 4.2 liter LMP2 V8 with (I assume, since Gibson hasn't released the info on it) a larger bore and (for sure) being adapted to fuel flow instead of using an air restrictor like the LMP2 engine does.
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Remember that DPIs had to be repeatedly cranked back until this season to approx. LMP2 speeds. Even though IMSA added weight to the LMP2s late last season (and I'm assuming this season), that was done with ACO approval. Also, LMP2 initially was the spec that was baseline for DPI performance. However, DPIs were allowed development that base LMP2s weren't, which was a big reason for the pegging back of DPIs the past couple of years until this season.

That all being said, if the ACO and IMSA did allow a power boost for LMP2s in IMSA, it's probably doable. The 4.5 liter Gibson V8 that Rebellion is using is based on the 4.2 liter LMP2 V8 with (I assume, since Gibson hasn't released the info on it) a larger bore and (for sure) being adapted to fuel flow instead of using an air restrictor like the LMP2 engine does.
With who's money?? That's always the catch and everyone is willing to spend and spend but who is funding it?? IMSA sure as hell isn't, the ACO wouldn't be interested at all, and Gibson has a business building them to spec X, why suddenly offer Y for a market that just isn't there?

And I'm pretty sure the reason for restricting the DPis back is they are paying for the cars. LMP2 runners were promised buy a car and race it, no development needed. Now to change the rules and say well that's too slow, no fund making it faster?? Hell buy a Caddy at that rate and be done, no development crew, testing, parts sourcing needed, it's turn-key and fast.
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I just said that it'd doable, not that it'll get done. I don't think that the current LMP2 pro-am teams would commit to it. And there's naturally no incentive to run an all-pro LMP2 in IMSA.

Problem also is in DPI only Cadillac are offering customer cars, and I've heard that they're almost at their limit on the number of teams they're currently willing to support. So it seems that either way, getting LMP2 up to DPI specs, we're up a creek without a paddle. Not that anyone wants to commit right now to such an idea.
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I just said that it'd doable, not that it'll get done. I don't think that the current LMP2 pro-am teams would commit to it. And there's naturally no incentive to run an all-pro LMP2 in IMSA.

Problem also is in DPI only Cadillac are offering customer cars, and I've heard that they're almost at their limit on the number of teams they're currently willing to support. So it seems that either way, getting LMP2 up to DPI specs, we're up a creek without a paddle. Not that anyone wants to commit right now to such an idea.
I mean DPI has zero chance of growing if there are not options for interested teams. If Mazda & Acura arenít selling and GM is caped out, the series needs to find other options.
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IMO, both IMSA and the ACO are facing the issue of teams leaving faster than they're coming in.
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