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Old 19 Jul 2008, 13:38 (Ref:2253893)   #1
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[WTCC] Race 13 & 14 - Brands Hatch (GBR), 26/27 July 2008



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26/07 Free Practice 1 10:00
26/07 Free Practice 2 12:10
26/07 Qualifying 16:00
27/07 Warm Up 11:00
27/07 Race 1 13:05
27/07 Race 2 14:20


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  • Lourenço Beirão da Veiga will drive the Sunred SEAT because he won the SEAT Eurocup at Estoril.
  • Aytaç Biter will drive the 2nd BMW 320si of Borusan Otomotiv Motorsport.
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Old 19 Jul 2008, 17:14 (Ref:2253983)   #2
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You forgot Robert Dahlgren will drive the Volvo C30

Has anyone got a full timetable for the weekend? MSV are still saying 'check back soon'
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Old 19 Jul 2008, 20:22 (Ref:2254087)   #3
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This as a marshal's version

taken from timetable issued to the marshals
once I wrote it out for a PM, I thought everybody might as well see it
(edit I see Fire's times are not local...)

Sat
WTCC practice 0900 - 0930
F Master practice 0940 - 0950
F Master qualy 0950 - 1010
FPA practice 1025 - 1055
WTCC practice 1110 - 1140
SEAT Euro qualy 1150 - 1220
F Master open pit lane 1230 - 1245
F Master race (18laps/35min max) 1245 - 1320
FPA qualy 1335 - 1355
F1 demo 1355 - 1415
lunch 1415 - 1455
WTCC qually 1500 - 1530
SEAT Euro race 1555 - 1620
FPA Qually 1630 - 1650
Swinging 60s qually 1700 -1730
(manufacturer rides 1730 - 1930 )

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WTCC warm up 1000 - 1015
swinging 60s R1 1025 - 1045
FPA race 1 16laps/25mins 1100 - 1125
WTCC pit lane open 1140 - 1205
WTCC R1 1205 -1230
WTCC pit lane open 1255 - 1320
WTCC R2 1320 - 1345
F master pit lane open 1400 -1415
F master 24laps/40min max 1420 - 1500
lunch & parades 1500 -1540
F1 demo 1540 - 1600
Seat Eurocup 1615 -1645
FPA R2 16laps/25 min max 1700 - 1725
Swinging 60s 1740 - 1810

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Old 20 Jul 2008, 11:32 (Ref:2254479)   #4
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Hello all, my first post here.
Bodysnatcher, do you know if there is any running on the Friday? I had planned to do all three days like last year's WTCC meeting.
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Old 20 Jul 2008, 13:18 (Ref:2254530)   #5
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Welcome Winchester, Yep - there there will be Friday testing. But not on the GP circuit, only on the short circuit. I have no idea what will be running pre 1300

As far as the race marshals are concerned, we are covering
Seat Eurocup free practice 1300 - 1330 & 1530 - 1600
Formula master free practice 1345 - 1430 & 1615 - 1700
no action as far as we are concerned (ie lunch!) 1430 - 1530, seems a bit odd afer a 1300 start to then have a lunch break
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Old 20 Jul 2008, 14:26 (Ref:2254568)   #6
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Thanks very much Bodysnatcher. I assume the circuit has used up too many of its allocated days on the GP loop? Not sure how chuffed the Friday drivers will be at missing half the track out, but I shall be there nonetheless! It was a great weekend last year.

Who does everyone fancy for success this weekend anyway? If I was a betting man (cough) I'd have a sneaky punt on Menu repeating his success of the last two years in his 'home' race.
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Old 21 Jul 2008, 12:20 (Ref:2255250)   #7
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Portuguese driver Cesar Campaniço will drive at Imola.
http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=2516
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Old 22 Jul 2008, 16:13 (Ref:2255988)   #8
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Official timetable now available
changes have been made from the earlier version
https://tickets.motorsportvision.co....0timetable.pdf
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3pm lunch?? I know it's a Sunday, but still...
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Old 23 Jul 2008, 06:08 (Ref:2256341)   #10
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I expect that will be Martin Haven's fault. Has to mend his Morris Minor during the lunch break so he can drive home in the evening
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This includes all the extra cars at the next few rounds
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3pm lunch?? I know it's a Sunday, but still...
The demands of live TV for a different time zone...
as for a winner, I'd like to see Yvan Muller do it, but given the ballast rules that I struggle to understand, it could be Jaap van Laagen's turn...

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No Wiechers Sport at Brands Hatch because Tielemans main sponsor (Advanced LSM) has not payed any money this season:

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Das deutsche Team Wiechers Sport startet am kommenden Wochenende nicht bei den Läufen der Tourenwagen-WM (WTCC) in Brands Hatch. Der Grund: ausgebliebene Sponsorengelder.


"Der einfache, aber traurige Grund ist, dass der holländische Hauptsponsor von Olivier Tielemans seit Saisonbeginn noch keine Zahlung an das Team geleistet hat", heißt es in einer Pressemitteilung des Teams aus Niedersachsen.
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Source: http://www.racing1.de/web/tw_em/arti...95e9205744cb19

Also: http://www.autosport.nl/actueel/news...16&rubriek=int




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BUREAU’S LATEST DECISIONS
The FIA Touring Car Bureau took two decisions that will have effect from this weekend’s event in Brands Hatch and until further notice.

HONDA – The minimum weight of the Honda Accord Euro R cars will be reduced by a further 10 kilos in addition to the 20-kg reduction resulting from the Bureau"s decision of May 28th, 2008.

DIESEL – All diesel cars must have the catalytic converter and the exhaust gas purification system in perfect working order, and therefore they must not produce visible black smoke at any time during the event.

The Bureau also clarified that, in case of decisions resulting in a reduction of the cars' minimum weight, this weight may be subtracted from the total weight of the car including the success ballast.
Source: WTCC pr
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"DIESEL – All diesel cars must have the catalytic converter and the exhaust gas purification system in perfect working order, and therefore they must not produce visible black smoke at any time during the event."

Very good! The black smoke always annoyed me. It makes it harder to defend racing to greenies, even with the reduced carbondioxideemmision, when you replace that with dirty smelly black smoke. And it is better for the visibilitie and the lungs of the spectators.
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Old 25 Jul 2008, 00:06 (Ref:2257489)   #15
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Indeed, good decision. That smoke plain and simply looked tacky. It's 2008, not 1968.
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Scratch Andrey Romanov from this one as well. He couldn't get a travel visa organised in time.
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Menu quickest, Dahlgren 7th.
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More chiefly, first SEAT in 8th.

And Thommo 5th - getting a weight break for his most familiar circuit on the calendar seems to be playing into his hands.
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Farfus on pole.

Hernandez indie pole.
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For Mr Haven when you read this, my TV gave up the ghost and went bang to your commentary..
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is the twisty character of brands the reason behind the diesels disappointment or do they now pay for running the diesel particle filters in working condition and face mapping troubles?
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The Volvo had a close call in Free Practice 2, it was black-flagged before it had even left the pit garage. After some discussion between Team Manager and the Officials the car was allowed to start the session yet. No one seemed to know or wanted to say what the problem was. As the team did nothing to change the car it was assumed it was some sort of admin/paperwork issue.

I hope some of you are going to Brands tomorrow. Arrived at the car park this morning and thought I had got the wrong weekend. Where was everyone?
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The Volvo had a close call in Free Practice 2, it was black-flagged before it had even left the pit garage. After some discussion between Team Manager and the Officials the car was allowed to start the session yet. No one seemed to know or wanted to say what the problem was. As the team did nothing to change the car it was assumed it was some sort of admin/paperwork issue.

I hope some of you are going to Brands tomorrow. Arrived at the car park this morning and thought I had got the wrong weekend. Where was everyone?
At Oulton i pressume
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