Battle of the teammates

[QuickSilver]

As the 2006 season gets under way, the question I’d like to pose to the forum is: which one driver do you think will outscore his teammate by the most points? and why?

For reference, here are the teams’ the line-ups:
Alonso vs. Fisichella
Raikkonen vs. Montoya
M. Schumacher vs. Massa
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
Webber vs. Rosberg
Button vs. Barrichello
Coulthard vs. Klien
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Albers vs. Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed
Sato vs. Ide

On the surface it might seem easy because the bottom teams are unlikely to score many points at all, so the differential between the drivers should be minimal. That should point to the top teams.

Alonso would be my guess because he’s trying to defend and because of how far he outpaced Fisichella last year. Schumacher is another strong possibility since I could imagine him crushing Massa.

Thoughts?

[Menelaos]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
Raikkonen vs. Montoya
M. Schumacher vs. Massa - but aah, that's too hard to say
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
Webber vs. Rosberg
Button vs. Barrichello
Coulthard vs. Klien
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Albers vs. Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed - no idea
Sato vs. Ide - can't do worse than Sato, can he?

[speedbump]

Alonso vs. Fisichella, Alonso he's just faster and quicker
Raikkonen vs. Montoya, Montoya seems to mess things up.
M. Schumacher vs. Massa, MS but you never know with Massa
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli, Trulli is faster than RS
Webber vs. Rosberg, Webber more time beind the wheel
Button vs. Barrichello, Button has more time behind the BAR, Mid season RB
Coulthard vs. Klien, Coulthard
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve, Villeneuve having BMW will fire him up like 1996 1997
Albers vs. Monteiro ????? Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed ummmm Luzzi
Sato vs. Ide, Sato experiance

[Kirk]

Alonso
Raikkonen
M. Schumacher - but not the usual slam dunk
Trulli - the better of the two enigmas
Webber - this could be a blow-out
Button - an interesting match-up that could go either way
Klien - can't deny his progress
Villeneuve - close but look for a rejuvenated JV
Monteiro - his consistency should prevail
Speed - if his skill matches his cocky attitude
Sato - has a lot to prove after last years embarassment

[ASCII Man]

Alonso vs. Fisichella - The words 'blow' and 'weeds' come to mind.
Raikkonen vs. Montoya - See above
M. Schumacher vs. Massa - See above
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli - Ehh, it's like a lottery really!
Webber vs. Rosberg - Next-best thing showing used-to-be-next-best thing how to race.
Button vs. Barrichello - A revived Barrichello released from his cage will show up that playboy wannabe.
Coulthard vs. Klien - Da Cube showing that his aerodynamic inefficiency isn't holding him back anymore.
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve - A motivated Jacques can pull it off, and then some!
Albers vs. Monteiro - Meh..
Liuzzi vs. Speed - Meh..
Sato vs. Ide - Meh!

[BertMk2]

Alonso - I'd rather see Fisi take it but I think Alonso will still have the edge.
Raikkonen - Is more consistent than Montoya.
M. Schumacher - Will destroy Massa.
Trulli - The closest match up? Went for Trulli because he's not Ralf
Webber - Will out qualify Rosberg comfortably and from there it'll be easy.
Button - Another tough one to call, but it's Buttons team.
Coulthard - 'Crazy Dave' to have a similar advantage to last season.
Heidfeld - BMW like Nick.
Albers - Will produce better results than Monteiro but less consistent.
Liuzzi - Has the pedigree but needs to beat Speed if he wants a future in F1
Sato - I like Super Aguri. Torpedo Sato will be the better of the two drivers.

[dsg]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
Raikkonen vs. Montoya
M. Schumacher vs. Massa - Oh poor Felipe.
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli - I think Ralf may surprise a few.
Webber vs. Rosberg
Button vs. Barrichello - Rubens may be rejuvenated like Coulthard last year but Jensen will hang on.
Coulthard vs. Klien
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Albers vs. Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed
Sato vs. Ide - Satosan will rise again.

[bauble]

Pretty obvious in most cases it seems but many do not have a handle on Luizzi.
I know it is an entirely different scenario, but if you saw 'Tonio driving the Plymouth Barracuda at the Goodwood Revival meeting you might have formed a favourable opinion. He was amongst the leaders in much faster cars and having a real go in a relatively unsorted car, showing the right attitude and plenty of car control.
OK! I accept that he was up against older, amateur rivals but his approach said "Racer" to me.

I like him.

[Kirk]

Your sttement about Luizi is true Bauble. He was impressive at Goodwood, but the reality is, all these guys are "racers" or they wouldn't be in F1.

Last year, Luizzi showed a tendency to make mistakes when pressured... but to a certain extent that comes with the territory of being a rookie in F1. As for Speed, his interview on Speed Channel's Wind Tunnel on Sunday revealed a cocky, arrogant "PR" ... and he readily admits it and claims that is why he made it this far in racing. It should be interesting as Speed may turn out to be the guy people love to hate. Especially if he acquits himself well.

[arthurive]

Alonso - Fisichella - As last year, Fisi will dominate
We're hoping for a little closer battle this year
Kimi - Montoya - The Finn will win
MSchu - Massa - Do we need to bother commenting?
Ralf - Trulli - Should be close. Jarno still has race troubles.
Button - Barrichello - Two of the biggest prats on the grid.
Who gives a damn?
Webber - Rosberg - I think Nico will surprise.
DC - Klien - An edge to the Scot
Nick - JV - JV drives like he hasn't in years, and wins the day.
Liuzzi - Speed - Tonio puts the comedy to rest, and dominates.
Monteiro - Albers - close, but the Dutchman wins
Sato - Ide - Sato is much quicker.

[Draven]

Alonso vs. Fisichella He's better in my opinion
Raikkonen vs. Montoya He's better in my opinion
M. Schumacher vs. Massa He's better in my opinion
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli He's better in my opinion
Webber vs. Rosberg I'm reckoning on Rosberg making it to a few more finishes than Weber, so with promised pace he could bag more points
Button vs. Barrichello knows the team better and will probably carry that advantage through the year
Coulthard vs. Klien Respect for David, but I think Klien has got plenty to show the world and he'll use this year to do it I reckon.
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve He's better in my opinion
Albers vs. Monteiro Close one, but I think tiago will have a small advantage from within the team.
Liuzzi vs. Speed More experience, more points probably
Sato vs. Ide Same as above except who knows if Ide will even see out the year, I hope so but SA could be a team in flux for this year.

Not trying to seem smart with the "He's better in my opinion" stuff, it's just the bottom line for those parings I think. Where as the others I dont necessarily think the one I have chosen is the better driver (or think they are possibly equal)

[ECW Dan Selby]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
Raikkonen vs. Montoya
M. Schumacher vs. Massa
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
Webber vs. Rosberg
Button vs. Barrichello
Coulthard vs. Klien
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Albers vs. Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed
Sato vs. Ide

Selby

[Silk Cut Jaguar]

I think Schumacher will be the most dominating team mate, Massa hasn't really done enough in F1 to deserve a seat at Ferrari and I think his performance will just highlight what a good job Rubens did keeping pace with TGF for all those years.

[ralf fan]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
Alonso - just a little more quality than Fisi

Raikkonen vs. Montoya
Raikkonen - just a little more quality than JPM

M. Schumacher vs. Massa
M. Schumacher - By a mile......this may be a career defining/damaging season for Massa based on how he faces to the ultimate test.

R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
R. Schumacher - it will be very close. Jarno will take the qualifying duel but RS will grab more pts

Webber vs. Rosberg
Webber - Even though Webber will outperform Rosberg on most occasions, Rosberg will have a few good races and defy all expectation and will go into 2007 as Williams's No.1. Webber will also seem to have the edge because he is such a good qualifier.

Button vs. Barrichello
Button - because he has more experience with the team. Rubens will push him.

Coulthard vs. Klien
Too close to call. Dc might get the edge but Klien will once again impress and could get a good drive for 2007

Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Heidfeld- I am hoping JV will improve though and put a sock in Dr. Theissen's mouth once and for all.

Albers vs. Monteiro
Albers - He is faster

Liuzzi vs. Speed
Speed - wasnt impressed by Liuzzi's few outings last year.

Sato vs. Ide
Dunno - In 2004 i wouldve said Sato in an instant. but Taku was back to his old inconsistent self in 2005. depends on which Taku turns up

[chunterer]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
summary - Alonso is simply brilliant and Fizzi is just fast.

Raikkonen vs. Montoya
- Montoya stepped upto the plate to pressure Kimi later on last year and i think he will continue in that vein.

M. Schumacher vs. Massa
- He's still got it but if the car isn't always consistently quick then the younger hungry driver may well mug him on occassions.

R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
- All Jarno needs is a car that will go as quickly in a race as it does in qualy, Ralf might just as well give in to him now!

Webber vs. Rosberg
- Nico will show well in and out but Webber will have one aim this year: impress to get a better car next year!

Button vs. Barrichello
- I'm not convinced by Button, although I will be chuffed for him if he wins something. My money's on a rejuvenated Rubinho now he's free of Ferrari politics.

Coulthard vs. Klien
- DC no question. Klien may not be in it in 2007.

Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
- Close call, JV may want to remind everyone he can drive Hardest one to call this is.

Albers vs. Monteiro
- Neither will go onto trouble the top guys but the Dutchman is quicker.

Liuzzi vs. Speed
- Liuzzi gets the nod because of his marginally greater experience of F1. Speed will be solid and if he stays fit his time will come.

Sato vs. Ide
- No opinion!!

[Splatz the Cow]

I thought you meant out of all of the drivers, so I will just give one answer;
Webber over Rosberg will be the greatest margin between team mates.

As a side note, if Sato were able to crush Ide in a consistant way, than it would do him well, but if he is inconsistant as he normally is, and fails to dominate Ide, than I think he has the most to lose of any driver.

[neilap]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

As the 2006 season gets under way, the question I’d like to pose to the forum is: which one driver do you think will outscore his teammate by the most points? and why?

I think MS will outscore FM by the most based on Ferrari's history of favoritism. Yeah, MS is faster too IMO so it should not be too far fetched. Michael also feels that last year was a disaster and I think he is more that anxious to prove he still has what it takes.
I wish Massa luck. There was a decent racer once namde Zonta that was pretty much destroyed by the team atmosphere and the team which he raced. Bias can destroy a career.

[maltafan]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
Raikkonen vs. Montoya
M. Schumacher vs. Massa
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
Webber vs. Rosberg
Button vs. Barrichello
Coulthard vs. Klien
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Albers vs. Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed
Sato vs. Ide - no idea. Have never seen Ide race

[shiny side up!]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
As much as I would love Fisi to take it, he is just too fragile. There will certainly be weekends when Fisi shines, especially towards the end if Renault and Alonso are not fighting for P1...

Raikkonen vs. Montoya
This is going to be a close one. I think Raikkonen is consistently quick, but ultimately not faster than Montoya... it may come down to who is the most patient with the rather fragile equipment they are sent to battle with.

M. Schumacher vs. Massa
TGF still has it, but Massa will shade him a few times.

R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
Had the B spec not come out last year, I think Trulli would have been a fair bit ahead of Ralf... if this year's car suits him, Trulli will beat up on wreckin' Ralf.

Webber vs. Rosberg
Experience will gather the points for Webber, but I'm willing to bet by the end Nico will have the outright speed advantage by midseason... but not the racecraft.

Button vs. Barrichello
Would love to say Rubhino, but just don't see it happening. Both will pick up at least 1 win this year!

Coulthard vs. Klien
Klien has enough experience to outrace the aging DC.

Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
This will be a slaughter. Hide the women and children.

Albers vs. Monteiro
Consistent, not-so-flashy Montiero beats the primadonna Albers, even though Albers often outpaces him.

Liuzzi vs. Speed
Speed by default as Liuzzi will just not work hard enough.

Sato vs. Ide
No answer, as I've never seen Ide race. However, I suspect that on pace, Ide will be destroyed by Sato. Unfortunately, so will many an Aguri chassis.

[BSchneiderFan]

Alonso over Fisichella
Raikkonen over Montoya (but maybe only just???)
Schumacher, M over Massa (a no-brainer)
Trulli over Schumacher, R (but only just)
Rosberg over Webber (controversial!)
Button over Barrichello (by a squeak)
Coulthard over Klien
Heidfeld over Villeneuve (another no-brainer, I'm afraid, JV fans)
Albers over Monteiro
Speed over Liuzzi
Sato over Ide

Feel free to mock me, come the end of the season.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by maltafan

Ide - no idea.

I think that you may have inadvertently stumbled upon his Nick name.

[Raven]

Webber

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by QuickSilver

which one driver do you think will outscore his teammate by the most points? and why?

I'd say Webber over Rosberg. Theres so many things Rosberg wont know about F1 from GP2 regardless of the 200hp reduction. Not to mention Webber's no slouch

[Adam RR]

While I'd like the competition to go Webber, I actually think Massa's in for one helluvan ass whoopin' by his ever so slightly more succesful team mate.

[Ryan_Briscoe1]

Alonso vs. Fisichella
Raikkonen vs. Montoya
M. Schumacher vs. Massa
R. Schumacher vs. Trulli
Webber vs. Rosberg - webber will dominate nico anyone who thinks different is a webber basher
Button vs. Barrichello - button is overrated
Coulthard vs. Klien - but hopefully DC will shut his mouth or jaw abit more this season, he talks like he is a f1champ or sumthing.
Heidfeld vs. Villeneuve
Albers vs. Monteiro
Liuzzi vs. Speed
Sato vs. Ide - sato at the backfield is nothing but trouble, look for him to try overtake 4 laps down.