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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:03 (Ref:1980455)   #1
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
The Alonso blocking/penalty thread (AKA The rage is on !) [MERGED]

Beautiful. That's what happens when you expect team mates to be nice. McLaren have another Prost/Senna problem - awesome!
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:04 (Ref:1980456)   #2
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Yep,

Can't beat him on the track so use any other means. If Lewis takes that view he'll be ok.
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:04 (Ref:1980457)   #3
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Alonso was very clever? Perhaps, he was also very cheap though. IMO.
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:04 (Ref:1980458)   #4
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Brilliant. Love it.

A proper rivalry at last.
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Cheap?

CHEAP?

Man, that really stinks. I don't see that as clever at all.
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:05 (Ref:1980460)   #6
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Yeah, good thinking by Alonso IMO.

Not going to help inter-team relations I dont think, but Alonso is in it for himself, as is Hamilton.

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Man, that really stinks. I don't see that as clever at all.
Well, given that he went faster than Hamilton, and made sure he couldnĀ“t be beaten - I would disagree, and say it was very smart, albeit a wee bit underhand.

Ofcourse, this is all assuming there was no car problems.

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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:06 (Ref:1980461)   #7
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I'm getting extremely fed up with that punk kid Alonso.
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:07 (Ref:1980462)   #8
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As long as they view it as on track rivalry, but it was a cheap shot wasn't it?

A shame really because it devalues Alonso's stock in my eyes (not that that is important).
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:07 (Ref:1980463)   #9
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If Alonso really did this deliberately (and the data will show if there was a problem) Ron is going to be really really upset. Things are bad enough with the Ferrari debacle at the moment without them doing this within the team.

Odds on Ron sacking him? Extreme perhaps but who knows....
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:08 (Ref:1980464)   #10
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Oh man, can't wait to see how Ron's going to react to this one. Great stuff Alonso, for entertainments sake if nothing else.
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Shows how worried he is, I guess......
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:09 (Ref:1980467)   #12
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It was certainly slightly underhand. But it really stokes things up for tomorrow.
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I don't think anything really needs stoking up.
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what sort of circus is Ron running at the moment?!
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Brilliant. Love it.

A proper rivalry at last.
YES, Brilliant!

Bring back the 'Mclaren cold war' year from the late 80's!
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No, more than slightly Knowlesy, if he did do it deliberately (and Ron clearly thinks so), it was done to ensure that a team mate couldn't get another lap in. I agree with Peter, it devalues Alonso's stock substantially for me.
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:12 (Ref:1980477)   #17
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No, more than slightly Knowlesy, if he did do it deliberately (and Ron clearly thinks so), it was done to ensure that a team mate couldn't get another lap in. I agree with Peter, it devalues Alonso's stock substantially for me.
I don't know. I mean, maybe I'm not in the right mood to judge this properly at the moment.

I like both drivers and it made me chuckle a bit so I don't know...

Lewis is clearly in no doubt what happened. I wonder now if McLaren will now favour Lewis strategy wise tomorrow to compensate?
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I think Lewis is going to be pretty fired up for the run to T1 tomorrow, somehow........
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Very unsporting..... Alonso is starting to leave a very sour taste.

Struggling to keep up with the pace with Hamilton so he has to do it off the track...bad words in the press. If the shoe was on the other foot how far would Alonso thrown his rattle from the pram....very far i think!
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Old 4 Aug 2007, 13:15 (Ref:1980484)   #20
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A real spanner in the works there from Fernando. No point defending him, but it's set up a great race! Turn one is gonna be fantastic.
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Alonso... what a ******!! How long will Ron keep him??[EDIT] Don't dodge the autocensor.

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No, more than slightly Knowlesy, if he did do it deliberately (and Ron clearly thinks so), it was done to ensure that a team mate couldn't get another lap in. I agree with Peter, it devalues Alonso's stock substantially for me.
That team-mate having been 4/10ths quicker last time around. Even if that's not on outright pace (doesn't Hamilton usually qualify quite light on fuel relative to FA?) then it's probably more than could be compensated for by a different strategy - FA worried of LH running off into the distance on a lighter fuel load? Getting in front off of the line will certainly scupper that!

Very cool-headed thinking in the heat of the moment, I have to admire that as much as LH keeping his engine running in the gravel trap, even if I don't respect what he did.

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Not the kind of cheap move I would expect of a World Champion - I hope he gets a *******ing from Ron - it is very clear that Hamilton has Alonso rattled - my opinion of Alonso just keeps going down and down.

[EDIT] The autocensor really does work.

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