Ferrari F600

[Pilgrimage]

Now this has the looks of a LM car!
Plus a rather large (dare i say) "coupe" style cockpit!!

http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/car_news...=750596&vv=400

[Mal]

Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

Now this has the looks of a LM car!
Plus a rather large (dare i say) "coupe" style cockpit!!

http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/car_news...=750596&vv=400

That is a one off car commisioned from Pininfarina by an American Collector and although it is now sanctioned by Ferrari it will not be built in any numbers. However it is a fascinating story and if you have plenty of time you can read about it from the owner here:http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=92754

Be warned though it is a 135 page thread

[The Badger]

Looks like the Davinci code got their hands on the wheels , sacred pentacle and all that .

VILE !!!

[AU N EGL]

The following is from the August, 2006 issue of Racecar Engineering:

"Owner and technical chief of Scuderia Ecosse, Stewart Roden, is optimistic about Ferrari's future in racing: 'We had a few problems initially, as you might expect, but that's sorted. It's a good car, though next year I'd ideally like to have a 599 GT1 car.'

[gwyllion]

I would like to too, but if Ferrari is not building such a car, it will be very difficult

[WouterM]

Nope, but Michelotto is.

[F360]

Originally Posted by WouterM

Nope, but Michelotto is.

Exactly what I've heard too.
And exactly what I'd hoped for.

[Bob Riebe]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

The following is from the August, 2006 issue of Racecar Engineering:

"Owner and technical chief of Scuderia Ecosse, Stewart Roden, is optimistic about Ferrari's future in racing: 'We had a few problems initially, as you might expect, but that's sorted. It's a good car, though next year I'd ideally like to have a 599 GT1 car.'

If it comes to the USA, this could be a very good thing.

[F360]

Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

If it comes to the USA, this could be a very good thing.

USA...Europe......don't really mind as long as it actually happens !
With Michelotto building it, it SHOULD be a very good thing.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

If it comes to the USA, this could be a very good thing.

Isn't the US Ferrari's Largest market? However, Scuderia Ecosse races in Europe.

So we will see if and when it happens.

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by gwyllion

According to projectlemans.de there will be no new Ferrari GT1, based on the 599 GTB. See http://www.projectlemans.de/content/view/2264/53/

Confirmation on lmsr.net

Ferrari's Alberto Borgini tells LMSR.NET that at the moment Ferrari Corse Clienti is focused on the F430 GTC program only, the 599 GTB will not see a customer program in the near future.

[SALEEN S7R]

Shhhhhhh! You cant say that name on here! Virtually nobody here beleives a word that comes out from LMSR.NET.

Still, if Michael and co are correct it would be quite a dissapointment, but hey the Care Racing Ferrari 550's were only Customer cars too remember.

[AU N EGL]

A friend of mine on a differnt forum posted this

Originally Posted by Romans

No 599 GTC? I emailed Risi Competizione as to when and will Ferrari and Michelotto make a new Ferrari 599 GTC racecar?

Donald Pierce of Risi Competizione emailed me today and said the following:

There are no plans for a 599GTB race car by Ferrari. Michelotto, which is the division of Ferrari that produces Corse Clienti (Client Racing) cars would be the company to produce it, under Ferrari's department supervision.

At this stage, however, there are no plans for a 599GTB. GT1 is an order of magnitude more expensive to race than GT2, with budgets for two cars in the $7.0 to $10.0 million range.

and
Focused on the F430 GTC program
Ferrari's Alberto Borghini tells LMSR.NET (10-7-06) that at the moment Ferrari Corse Clienti is focused on the F430 GTC program only, the 599 GTB will not see a customer program in the near future.

Source: http://www.theraceforum.com/index.cf...form_cat_id=13

[HORNDAWG]

Pardon the defilement but, it looks like Ferrari's attempt at a ZO6 Corvette. Maybe they do not like the recent gains in popularity of the Corvette!! Probably not, but just a thought!

L.P.

[275 GTB-4]

Theres a hint of Mazda sports in the rear end.....tough audience here....I'd have one tomorrow

[HORNDAWG]

612 Scaglietti made into a 2 seater and souped up!!
L.P.

[TWK]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Pardon the defilement but, it looks like Ferrari's attempt at a ZO6 Corvette. Maybe they do not like the recent gains in popularity of the Corvette!! Probably not, but just a thought!

L.P.

Are you saying a Z06 Corvette is involved in GT1 racing?

[HORNDAWG]

Actually no I was extolling what I think are virtues of the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano. And as to your question about GT-1,sort of = C6R >= C6-Z06.

L.P.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by TWK

Are you saying a Z06 Corvette is involved in GT1 racing?

There are several teams building a C6ZO6 into a GT2 car. GM will help with ACO homologation.
the C6.r will remain the GT1 contender.

[HORNDAWG]

Ya its one of those "Chicken and the Egg" deals. The C6R was on the scene before the Z-06 but the Z-06 was in the pipeline. And the C6R is the racing derivitive of the Z-06. At least that is my take on the
deal. It may be totally smoke but I'm standing by it!!

L.P.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Ya its one of those "Chicken and the Egg" deals. The C6R was on the scene before the Z-06 but the Z-06 was in the pipeline. And the C6R is the racing derivitive of the Z-06. At least that is my take on the
deal. It may be totally smoke but I'm standing by it!!

L.P.

Close but not quite.

The C6.r is an evolution of the C5-R. The C6.r was produced and released 6 months before any C6 ( not the ZO6) was produced and sold to the public. almost 3 years before the C6Z06.

The first C5-R was 1999 C5 Coupe, an actuall street car.
http://palmeter.com/C5RMuleHom.htm

History of the C5-R and the C6.r: http://palmeter.com/

The first C6.r was actully chassie # C5R-012
"Comments on C6.R changes:
"Both the chassis and the aerodynamic package changed considerably," explained Steve Wesoloski, GM Racing road racing group manager. "The new regulations required more extensive use of the production car's chassis structure, retaining items such as the central drivetrain tunnel, the windshield frame and the rear bumper. These requirements affected the C6.R's weight distribution, and we had to understand how that change influenced its on-track performance. We also introduced new low-friction suspension attachments that made the car quicker to react, and that required the engineering team to make corresponding changes in the setup throughout the season.
2005-11-01 - ALMS Web Site"

The Z06 design was helped by Pratt & Miller to Chevy plus changes in the ACO length and width requirenments.

The C6Z06 is smaller, 2 inches shorter and almost 3 inches narrower and 3.2 inches taller then the C6.r

Chassie specs: http://www.corvetteracing.com/cars/c...is_specs.shtml

GM is finally allowing a 'few' teams to convert the Z06 into GT2 cars.
http://palmeter.com/C6-Z06-R.htm
and
http://lgmotorsports.com/gallery/dis...?album=8&pos=0


So in the corvette case, the racing car came first.

[HORNDAWG]

Ya; thats what I said right!

L.P.

[TWK]

Thanks, AU N EGL, that's exactly right. The C6.R is largely an improved decendent of the C5-R. It is not the racing derivative Z06.

[TWK]

Here's a paragraph from my dailysportscar story this past summer:

Corvettes have been built exclusively in Bowling Green since production was moved there from St. Louis, Missouri, in 1981. John Spencer, Program Launch Manager for the C6 and Z06, conducted our plant tour. It’s a fascinating combination of automation and hand-building that takes place as 175 Corvettes – thirty-two of them Z06s – are built in a 9 ½ hour shift. The Corvette doesn’t have unibody, but it’s not on a “frame,” either. Rather two sophisticated hydroformed (high pressure water is used) rails are the base to which carbon fiber panels and other elements are attached to create the car’s structural platform. That’s aluminum for the Z06, and steel for the C6 and C6.R – the aluminum chassis of the Z06 hasn’t been homologated yet, though with production of about 7,000 this year, it could be.

HORNDAWG, I think you need to tell John Spencer that the C6.R is the racing derivative of the Z06.

[Bob Riebe]

But Auy old chap, youse tolds me the ally chassis has now been homo'd so the
R is ZO6 offspriung, arh, arh, arh, arh.
Bob