Mercedes V8 - every bit as hot as the V10

Glen · 14 Sep 2005, 11:23 (Ref:1407577)

Kicking-back · 14 Sep 2005, 12:17 (Ref:1407619)

The first run of the new engine and it's the same old incompetence from Mercedes!

Being fair, I suppose niggles are what the shakedown is for - PdlR says it was a minor problem of burning bodywork.

But I'm sure we can rely on Glen to keep us up to date with any further McLaren problems

Marbot · 14 Sep 2005, 12:37 (Ref:1407640)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

PdlR says it was a minor problem of burning bodywork.

They'd better get that sorted,being mindfull of the problems BAR had with the car being under weight.

Glen · 14 Sep 2005, 13:07 (Ref:1407671)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kicking-back

But I'm sure we can rely on Glen to keep us up to date with any further McLaren problems

Hey - I know my job!

If it weren't for the fact that they have had plently of burning bodywork issues before (MP4-18 especially) I would be even more sceptical - I guess the benefit of the doubt can be extended this time. As you say - that's what shake-downs are for.

On the other hand (man - I just don't know when to let it lie!) surely the current car shouldn't spontanteously combust - this is an MP4-20 with the smaller V8 in it.

Kicking-back · 14 Sep 2005, 13:09 (Ref:1407673)

Different exhausts, of course.

Silk Cut Jaguar · 14 Sep 2005, 13:10 (Ref:1407674)

Will McLaren be the first grand prix team to start running their cars with two engines?

Glen · 14 Sep 2005, 13:16 (Ref:1407679)

Perhaps it was the old exhaust failure problem - caused by a rod being thrown through the block and straight through the pipes!

marcush. · 14 Sep 2005, 13:23 (Ref:1407685)

hey this was an electrical failurte back then...
conrod thru distributor...and actually this was a driver´s statement referring to a dnf
of his Ferrari ,and engine failures did not happen at ferrari then .

NO1SPECIAL · 14 Sep 2005, 13:30 (Ref:1407690)

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Originally Posted by Glen

Perhaps it was the old exhaust failure problem - caused by a rod being thrown through the block and straight through the pipes!

yep, those troublesome exhausts...hehe

Marbot · 14 Sep 2005, 13:40 (Ref:1407702)

Maybe the car wasn't going fast enough to put the fire out! Ouch!

Glen · 14 Sep 2005, 14:03 (Ref:1407720)

I've high hopes that there will be quite a big variation in power and performance with the new cars, at least for a period of time until the various tricks are learned. Other factors (such as driving style, as mentioned by PDLR) will come into play and we may well get quite a few surprises.

BootsOntheSide · 14 Sep 2005, 14:10 (Ref:1407725)

Sounds similar to the problem Stewart had in Australia 1999. It's early days though, they've got 7 months to overcome teething troubles, and they're at a reasonably advanced stage consdiering that they probably haven't stopped devleopment on the 2005 engine.

Louis B. · 14 Sep 2005, 14:17 (Ref:1407728)

Please stop being so negative. As appears from the photograph (thanks Glen), the car made it out of the garage.

Glen · 14 Sep 2005, 14:28 (Ref:1407737)

Maybe they've just got Keke Rosberg to do some consultancy work and he was having his after-drive "oily-rag".

Tec-Mec 60 · 14 Sep 2005, 18:21 (Ref:1407903)

i was there today and it does sound rather impressive, but you can see just from watching it how much slower it is.
ive got some video clips if theres anywhere i can post them etc if anybody wants them lol.

Jordi · 14 Sep 2005, 21:43 (Ref:1408041)

I'd like to see some of that. Been a few months without any proper testing at Montmeló.

(BAR are there now but I wonder if it's open - no pictures anywhere)

Kempi · 15 Sep 2005, 07:27 (Ref:1408254)

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The first run of the new engine and it's the same old incompetence from Mercedes! (...)- PdlR says it was a minor problem of burning bodywork.

I think the bodywork falls into the McLaren department...and they have been known (as said here before) for building cars in a way that it burns down.

Glen · 15 Sep 2005, 15:23 (Ref:1408592)

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Originally Posted by Norbert Haug

…this week’s maiden track outing was the next big step, and Norbert Haug, Vice President Mercedes-Benz Motorsport, was pleased with the results.

"We had an uneventful track debut with our new V8 engine,” he said. “With Pedro de la Rosa at the wheel we gained first basic experiences with the new engine on a race circuit and we completed our programme as planned.

Apparently the car is supposed to catch light. The guy should apply for a job in government with heads in the sand PR like that!

Kicking-back · 15 Sep 2005, 15:27 (Ref:1408596)

Ah, old Norbert!

He's technically true - the problem happened in the pitlane wen it came in, not on the track

Glen · 15 Sep 2005, 15:36 (Ref:1408601)

Ah - true enough, although I had assumed that the reason the car was pitting might have been due to the non engine related (!) FIRE.

Kicking-back · 15 Sep 2005, 15:36 (Ref:1408602)

No, apparently it was a build up of heat while stationary that caused the fire

Glen · 15 Sep 2005, 15:48 (Ref:1408608)

Build up of hot air.

Marbot · 15 Sep 2005, 16:24 (Ref:1408632)

Full story here.But no mention of fire!

Spritle · 15 Sep 2005, 19:03 (Ref:1408754)

About 6 seconds a lap slower than Alonso's V-10!

Oh brother I hope the teams get that sorted out by next year or we'll have GP2-II.

One set of tyres per race and V8's will catch Champ cars up quick in Montreal.

Dutton · 15 Sep 2005, 19:06 (Ref:1408756)

I seriously doubt they will be anything like 8 seconds "off the pace" come Melbourne.

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