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Old 3 Oct 2008, 16:41 (Ref:2303537)   #1
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SuperLeague Formula 2008 - Round 3 Zolder [04/05 October]

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Live streaming on their website plus Setanta Sports 2 (I think). Click here for stream (I think it's showing a looping video when it's not being used. Region locking may or may not work.

One "substitution" : Instead of Andy Zuber, WSR man and local driver Bertrant Baguette will be driving for Al Ain.

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Old 3 Oct 2008, 20:45 (Ref:2303681)   #2
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Changes, Meijer for Al Ain
Baguette for Dortmund.
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Old 3 Oct 2008, 22:47 (Ref:2303744)   #3
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Changes, Meijer for Al Ain
Baguette for Dortmund.
That even SOUNDS like prematch football talk.

Seriously, I've got to go to this for work. I guess I shouldn't expect big queues at the waffle concessions...?
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 07:47 (Ref:2303855)   #4
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That was on purpose.
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:07 (Ref:2303931)   #5
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Stream - broken? (Nothing to do with geolocation).
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:10 (Ref:2303932)   #6
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stream has just begun here.
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:18 (Ref:2303941)   #7
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Broken stream here. Not saying it's geolocation so I can't imagine it's that.

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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:24 (Ref:2303945)   #8
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it's lagging
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:43 (Ref:2303949)   #9
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Totally broken here, watching on live timing.
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:56 (Ref:2303957)   #10
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i've juste 30 seconds out of 5 minutes
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Utterly useless - is it a photostream or video?
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 12:33 (Ref:2303982)   #12
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now, that's ok, video, no more lag.

But, there's no commentator.
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 15:02 (Ref:2304045)   #13
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Sorry, the 'new and improved' A1GP may be struggling to get up to speed, but it still makes this lot look like amateurs.
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 19:14 (Ref:2304234)   #14
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A little off topic.....

But, the series is called Superleague Formula. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but is Superleague not actually Rugby League?! http://www.superleague.co.uk/

Whoever came up with this concept need shooting, it is truly dire.
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Race 1 starts in 15 minutes, live feed is working for me at the moment
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dave not neil : there are tonnes of things called Super League or Superleague, in this forum I guess we are just calling it Superleague for brevity :P

No commentary?

EDIT AT 10 07 = Stream gone black here.

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Old 5 Oct 2008, 15:29 (Ref:2304725)   #17
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Oh, my god, there were spectators in the grandstand. Not many, but it was a shock to see.
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Old 5 Oct 2008, 15:36 (Ref:2304731)   #18
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I was there and quite enjoyed it - there was a reasonable crowd too, largely from Holland.

The second race was actually pretty awesome, although had trouble following the flemish commentary.

More support races would have been nice (euroboss was the only one - and even that wasn't on until after both main races ), but otherwise all pretty entertaining.
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Old 5 Oct 2008, 17:54 (Ref:2304815)   #19
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Kasper Andersen told, that the powerplant in his car had nowhere near 750 BHP. It just got softer and softer, through the race..

They must do better..
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Old 5 Oct 2008, 19:27 (Ref:2304891)   #20
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I was there and quite enjoyed it - there was a reasonable crowd too, largely from Holland.
Surprising that most werer from holland, i thought it was a pretty dumb date to pick with A1gp racing at Zandvoort.

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Kasper Andersen told, that the powerplant in his car had nowhere near 750 BHP. It just got softer and softer, through the race..

They must do better..
It's a mechanical sport. Sure, bad luck voor Andersen but it is a part of the sport.
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Yeah, but there was an argument after quali on whether the team was responsible for this or there was something wrong with the said engine. The engine was not changed though as the team though a down on power engine could be better in the wet Apart from that a brake disc failed in race 1 not long before the throttle stuck which led to Kasper spining. I do not know if it is the team or the general reliability level of the series but it is getting a bit frustrating for Olympiacos.

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I also thought it was pretty dumb to chose to go to Zolder on the the same weekend as A1GP was at Zandvoort. They both seem to have had pretty bad weather.

Thanks to autosport.com, here are the results of the two races set out in a way that at least I can understand.

Race One:
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Pos Driver                  Team                       Gap
 1. Adrian Valles           Liverpool            45:51.628
 2. Craig Dolby             Anderlecht              +2.257
 3. Paul Meijer             Borussia Dortmund       +4.045
 4. Max Wissel              FC Basel                +5.928
 5. Andy Soucek             Atletico Madrid         +8.201
 6. Tristan Gommendy        FC Porto                +9.111
 7. Yelmer Buurman          PSV Eindhoven          +11.435
 8. Ryan Dalziel            Rangers                +11.601
 9. Tuka Rocha              Flamengo               +12.784
10. Antonio Pizzonia        Corinthians            +13.650
11. Bertrand Baguette       Al Ain                 +14.482
12. Duncan Tappy            Tottenham Hotspur       +1 Lap

Retirements

    Enrico Toccacelo        AS Roma                18 laps
    Alessandro Pier Guidi   Galatasaray            18 laps
    Kasper Andersen         Olympiacos             17 laps
    Borja Garcia            Sevilla FC              3 laps
    Davide Rigon            Beijing Guoan           1 laps
    Robert Doornbos         AC Milan                0 laps


Fastest lap, Valles 1:38.031 on lap 14
Race Two:
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Pos  Driver                 Team                       Gap
 1.  Davide Rigon           Beijing Guoan        47:23.624
 2.  Duncan Tappy           Tottenham Hotspur   +   23.436
 3.  Yelmer Buurman         PSV Eindhoven       +   24.504
 4.  Robert Doornbos        AC Milan            +   26.176
 5.  Max Wissel             FC Basel            +   29.097
 6.  Adrián Vallés          Liverpool           +   31.260
 7.  Enrico Toccacelo       AS Roma             +   34.194
 8.  Borja GarcÃ*a           Sevilla FC          +   34.270
 9.  Kasper Andersen        Olympiacos          +   34.742
10.  Bertrand Baguette      Al Ain              +   50.926
11.  Paul Meijer            Borussia Dortmund   +   50.948
12.  Alessandro Pier Guidi  Galatasaray         +   51.286
13.  Andy Soucek            Atletico Madrid     +   55.993
14.  Tuka Rocha             Flamengo            + 1:13.191
15.  Tristan Gommendy       FC Porto            + 1:21.368

Retirements

     Craig Dolby            Anderlecht             18 laps
     Ryan Dalziel           Rangers                 1 laps
     Antonio Pizzonia       Corinthians             0 laps

Fastest lap, Soucek 1:37.370 on lap 11
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I went to Zolder having, for various reasons, to miss Donington and Germany. The cars are good to watch and lacking only some reliability. The 'crowd' as such wasn't great but better than I expected having seen the comments after the first two rounds. Perhaps the answer is more marketing of the concept as there had been some publicity on behalf of Anderlecht before the weekend and there were also plenty of Eindhoven fans there. Even though I have some interest in football I don't think that generally soccer fans have much interest in motor racing, so I think it will be a struggle to get the concept to a high interest level until it starts to become something motorsport fans get into. However, I can't see why some of the posters on this site are wanting to see the series fail. Some of the drivers have talent with the likes of Doornbos and Pizzonia mixing it with the young, upcoming stars of tomorrow. First timer, Meijer, was consistently fast in bad conditions and Craig Dolby impresses more and more - three second places and three mechanical failures in 6 races.
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Yeah, but there was an argument after quali on whether the team was responsible for this or there was something wrong with the said engine. The engine was not changed though as the team though a down on power engine could be better in the wet Apart from that a brake disc failed in race 1 not long before the throttle stuck which led to Kasper spining. I do not know if it is the team or the general reliability level of the series but it is getting a bit frustrating for Olympiacos.
Thank you for clarifying this, Go For Pole!

I agree, it is frustrating, to say the least..
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Never too late, a page on Zolder round with a Focus on the cars, here :

http://www.gurneyflap.com/superleague08.html
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