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SILVERSTONE CLASSIC 30th Anniversary Edition - Now 2021
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The 30th edition of the classic. Much bigger than its original incarnation but also much more diverse.

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Old 30 Apr 2020, 13:49 (Ref:3973801)   #46
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Burnenville, one of worlds great corners
Sat on outside during 67 practise with DSJ and he explained to me why Jim Clark was one of the great drivers.Would walk between cars to pub on inside of corner opposite the barns

It would be nothing now as the whole of the track would be flat as far as Stavelot.

The 1000ks won by the Mirage was pretty special . Spent that between Stavelot and Eau Rouge with a fiddled photographers pass
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Old 30 Apr 2020, 16:14 (Ref:3973823)   #47
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But will both competitors and marshals want to attend given many of them are in the vulnerable age range? Many of the medics will have been working flat out and want a holiday. I think the whole season needs knocking on the head.
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Old 30 Apr 2020, 16:55 (Ref:3973838)   #48
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I think historic motorsport is at the bottom of the motorsport pyramid and it’s a lot of fairly old blokes playing with old bags of bolts.
All other motorsport will be considered much more important than Historics and will be first in any queue.

Get ready to be disappointed!

I 'd argue that behind F1 and BTCC , historic racing is the biggest branch of the sport. We have no modern single seater racing , GT gets so -so crowds but the biggest crowds I see are Goodwood (MM - I don't do the Revival now) , the Classic , Gold Cup and VSCC / CSCC /HSCC events get good crowds at the right circuit in decent weather



Historic racing has a far wider demographic than you suggest - of course there's old farts like me , but I see plenty of youngsters too. Why not when you can buy an FF1600 which doesn't lose value , and enjoy close racing for a fraction of modern single seaters , assuming you can find any.



I expect no events to take place this year which people like us can attend - I am happy to grasp that nettle now and wish reality would kick in for organisers who think things will be back to normal in 3 months
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Old 1 May 2020, 07:08 (Ref:3973914)   #49
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….In that respect you might find track days back first, especially when they are good earners for circuits and need less infrastructure.

… I actually think other forms of motorsport like hillclimb/ sprints and short oval racing may come back sooner than others because of the lack of infrastructure required and less risk (single car) of hillclimbs/ sprints
I've been talking to the MD of our "home" kart track. As soon as the government gives any kind of go ahead he'll be open. He plans to have a limited number of pre-booked slots and a limit of one driver/one mechanic but he'll have testing underway before the MSUK lift their ban. Maybe he'll even have racing as a lot goes on outside MSUK these days. Track days were the last to shut down they'll be the first to start up, the companies running them will need the work.

I've always said it'll be the grass roots that get underway first. No infrastructure needed.

Zef you're late to the party. There's a Legends e-sports series using "Brabham BT44" and "McLaren M23". IIRC Jenson Button and Emerson Fittipaldi were among the entrants.

But the Real Thing at Silverstone? There's no way enough spectators will be allowed to make it viable.

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Old 1 May 2020, 07:52 (Ref:3973926)   #50
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I too very much doubt the Classic will go ahead

But if you think about the event running without spectators, then the amount of infrastructure required would be very much smaller. At that point the costs would fall dramatically. Race entrance fees at that meeting are far higher than everywhere else, somewhere near £1m, so there would be enough money in the coffers somewhere to make it happen

If you close all the catering outlets, ban all the individual race organiser hospitality trucks and make everyone bring their own sandwiches then you might actually get back to having an event which was nearer to what they were when the cars were new.

No crowds and no poseurs, it could be the best Silverstone Classic ever!!!!
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A group of enthusiasts towing their own old cars to race together on a circuit? wives with packed lunches and mates with tool boxes?

It'll never catch on!



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I too very much doubt the Classic will go ahead

But if you think about the event running without spectators, then the amount of infrastructure required would be very much smaller. At that point the costs would fall dramatically. Race entrance fees at that meeting are far higher than everywhere else, somewhere near £1m, so there would be enough money in the coffers somewhere to make it happen

If you close all the catering outlets, ban all the individual race organiser hospitality trucks and make everyone bring their own sandwiches then you might actually get back to having an event which was nearer to what they were when the cars were new.

No crowds and no poseurs, it could be the best Silverstone Classic ever!!!!
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I too very much doubt the Classic will go ahead

But if you think about the event running without spectators, then the amount of infrastructure required would be very much smaller. At that point the costs would fall dramatically. Race entrance fees at that meeting are far higher than everywhere else, somewhere near £1m, so there would be enough money in the coffers somewhere to make it happen

If you close all the catering outlets, ban all the individual race organiser hospitality trucks and make everyone bring their own sandwiches then you might actually get back to having an event which was nearer to what they were when the cars were new.

No crowds and no poseurs, it could be the best Silverstone Classic ever!!!!
It’s called “club racing”, you may have heard of it?
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And if they run an event like the Classic without spectators they can forget ever getting a penny from me again . I have never competed , except at the humblest speed event , but I have spectated , helped organise, marshalled and reported on events for decades .I've also spent a lot of money at Silverstone over the years .



The club racing I attended in the 60s and 70s did its best to welcome impecunious enthusiasts , and if there is any move to regard folk like me as an unwelcome inconvenience I will be massively p***ed off !
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And if they run an event like the Classic without spectators they can forget ever getting a penny from me again . I have never competed , except at the humblest speed event , but I have spectated , helped organise, marshalled and reported on events for decades .I've also spent a lot of money at Silverstone over the years .



The club racing I attended in the 60s and 70s did its best to welcome impecunious enthusiasts , and if there is any move to regard folk like me as an unwelcome inconvenience I will be massively p***ed off !
Ummmm how would running the event without spectators mean that you are an unwelcome inconvenience?

Its a temporary situation which is being dealt with as best as possible.

Surely when events CAN run safely, they SHOULD be run safely...even if that means its behind closed doors to try and get people back into work...

...I wouldn't begrudge BTCC for instance running without spectators if it meant those that rely on work as mechanics, photographers, media etc could actually earn some money and get back on their feet....im not selfish enough to put my enjoyment of the sport ahead of someones livelihood
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Er, that was my point. Shall I spell it out more clearly for you next time
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A group of enthusiasts towing their own old cars to race together on a circuit? wives with packed lunches and mates with tool boxes?

It'll never catch on!
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It's a great picture, but I don't think Moss was ever your average club racer
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[QUOTE=ascarracinguk;3973951]Ummmm how would running the event without spectators mean that you are an unwelcome inconvenience?

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That's obvious surely , if I cannot attend in person - especially as I have already paid to do so. Events like the Classic aren't staged , nor do drivers race, to keep people in work ,that is incidental . And holding a spectator free event would involve massive cuts in employment opportunity for others in any case , so let;'s not get too precious about preserving jobs eh ?



No Classic would have taken place without the massive income from spectator attendance .



I may not be alone, however, in having attended events where grid sizes led me to believe that the drivers had been prevented from turning up.
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