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Old 25 Jan 2018, 15:17 (Ref:3794994)   #2581
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With the way things are going in F1 and potential plans to put TV coverage behind a paywall, I think if Ferrari were to leave it would be a major body blow and one I'm not sure F1 could survive.
thats the rub right there...what percentage of the F1 fan base is Tifosi?

cant say i have ever seen a number or a poll on this... anecdotal then, but the overwhelming majority of live fans look to sport Ferrari kit and TV numbers seem to trend upwards and downwards based on how competitive Ferrari is.

if they lose Ferrari, then the numbers may not make sense for the other manus to continue either. downward spiral and all that.
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Old 25 Jan 2018, 15:37 (Ref:3795002)   #2582
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Bear in mind that F1 in Italy is going behind a paywall now, or very shortly. If current trends continue, the audience figures will also plummet there once it happens, just as it has in the UK, Germany and France.
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 16:57 (Ref:3797503)   #2583
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changing topics...not a rule change per say but a change that at least has relevance to the actual acing.

F1 is set to introduce biometric sensors for racing gloves in order to monitor drivers heart rates, blood oxygen levels, and in time i would imagine other vitals as well.

obviously extremely useful information for the medics to have before they reach an accident site.

https://www.fia.com/news/safety-their-hands

very cool stuff imo and many applications for this tech ranging from use in other categories, business opportunities for the FIA, and possible spin offs to other activities/jobs where protective equipment is needed etc etc.

but what does it mean for F1 besides the immediate safety improvement?

the teams will have the data so will this be a new metric with which to judge drivers, should this information be available to fans and part of the to race coverage (seeing what a drivers heart rate is through eau rouge or during a difficult pass etc) or would sharing a driver's biometric data be an ethical violation?
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 17:21 (Ref:3797511)   #2584
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the teams will have the data so will this be a new metric with which to judge drivers, should this information be available to fans and part of the to race coverage (seeing what a drivers heart rate is through eau rouge or during a difficult pass etc) or would sharing a driver's biometric data be an ethical violation?
this is really fascinating stuff.

regarding the ethical question... that's a good one. drivers are used to having little to no privacy when it comes to personal space, so i'd be surprised if any of them got arsey about it. and you'd like to think that, if they were using the data on screen and in the event of something happening, they wouldn't stay with that camera view in the same way they don't tend to stick with the onboard.

how cool would it be to have heart rate data on a replay of a wheel to wheel outbreaking battle??
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Old 1 Feb 2018, 18:41 (Ref:3797533)   #2585
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how cool would it be to have heart rate data on a replay of a wheel to wheel outbreaking battle??
it would be very cool! effectively a whole new tool with which to measure and compare drivers by. endless possibilities!

thinking about it more, i am actually a bit surprised that no driver (to my knowledge) has tried to live stream their Fitbit (or other health tracker) data during a race. i would imagine there is a lot of interest in this kind of stuff...and some potential sponsorship deals to be made in the process.
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If it's anything like my fitbit it'll say outdoor bike for 90mins.
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thinking about it more, i am actually a bit surprised that no driver (to my knowledge) has tried to live stream their Fitbit (or other health tracker) data during a race. i would imagine there is a lot of interest in this kind of stuff...and some potential sponsorship deals to be made in the process.
i think the trouble is what's mentioned in the article - they're using a new form of bluetooth with a 500m range, whereas the low energy version fitbits and stuff use now is more like... 50m?

i think it was during 2016 that a driver in "british f3" managed to stream an onboard gopro via facebook video during one free practice session, but only by having an agreement that he could have his phone in the cockpit! makes you wonder how much restrictive (but sensible and logical) regulations stop innovations like that. wouldn't it be great if f1 teams owned the rights to their own data and shared in-car footage so they could set up their own channels for their fans? it's not like they don't do something similar sent back to the factory already.
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If it's anything like my fitbit it'll say outdoor bike for 90mins.
they don't handle certain vehicles well either, after a day's driving it's amazing how close to 10,000 steps you can get!
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Bear in mind that F1 in Italy is going behind a paywall now, or very shortly. If current trends continue, the audience figures will also plummet there once it happens, just as it has in the UK, Germany and France.
When audiences plummet, which they will, this will detrimental to advertisers and sponsors who will see their target market dwindle and they will want out. The exact same thing happened to IndyCar and it has taken over a decade to get the series to where it is now and it's still not out quite out of the woods.
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Nice, a positive tweak to the rules.

A lot of ball sports have live trackers now. The latest cricket season here in Oz had live trackers on select players, how many km's they'd covered etc. I like it.
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Nice, a positive tweak to the rules.

A lot of ball sports have live trackers now. The latest cricket season here in Oz had live trackers on select players, how many km's they'd covered etc. I like it.
Anybody listened to "The 12th Man"? I expect the moisture meter will soon be implemented.
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obviously not f1, but here’s something to think about.

“british f3” is going to award points based on how many positions a driver can gain in a fully reversed grid for the second race of the weekend (out of 3).

it’s a tiny field so a bit of a moot point, but does anyone think this could be workable in f1?
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obviously not f1, but here’s something to think about.

“british f3” is going to award points based on how many positions a driver can gain in a fully reversed grid for the second race of the weekend (out of 3).

it’s a tiny field so a bit of a moot point, but does anyone think this could be workable in f1?
I think that's something that needs to be tried before anyone can speculate. There's so many possible positives and negatives that it really needs tested. Interesting idea.
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I'd rather see an award for the most overtakes, like they have in the BTCC
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I think that's something that needs to be tried before anyone can speculate. There's so many possible positives and negatives that it really needs tested. Interesting idea.
to prove if it could work, does it need to be tested in F1 though?

side question...is there any rule saying that every GP in a season has to follow the same format?

im thinking if one race can award double points (both to add spice to the title challenge and to appease the host promoter), then surely there is a GP out there that would welcome the notion of trying out something a bit different as a way to generate interest in their event.

would not want to see it at Monaco where overtaking spots are already at a premium but i would be fine with seeing them trying it as a one off at say Shanghai which is both wide enough and boring enough that i would welcome seeing something new.
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One award for the most on-track overtakes (excluding pit passing/passing retirees), possibly. But nothing that would overhaul a winner or a high points scorer. (or even a separate on-track passing sub-championship for the entire season)

And I hate reverse grids, I just hate em.
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