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1 Jul 2020, 13:01 (Ref:3984907)
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I doubt the others are worried, Ferrari have hardly been stellar in pre season testing. But they shouldn't suddenly be a midfielder either
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It might be more of a case of Ferrari being worried, as they have been forced into a major rework of their car and the revised season opener is this Sunday.
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1 Jul 2020, 15:02 (Ref:3984918)
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I feel like Ferrari is one of those few teams that generally has a handle on what works and what doesn't. I expect they went into testing with very specific ideas of the output and that they didn't see the expected on-track correlation to CFD, tunnel and simulator work. So it probably spooked them (and rightly so)
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1 Jul 2020, 17:06 (Ref:3984931)
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Winter testing was so long ago now...but i seem to recall that RB were feeling that they had caught up to Ferrari who themselves had dropped a bit further back from Merc.
Cant wait for this season to start.
A couple of extra months of development under covid protocols, Max vs Charles i think is going to be more epic this year, less races means fortune will favour the bold!
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2 Jul 2020, 16:00 (Ref:3985127)
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Originally Posted by chillibowl
... less races means fortune will favour the bold!
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Or will it? A DNF this season will be more damaging - less races to recover the lost points. Will the drivers risk a move for a couple more points or just pocket what they've got? Fortune might favour the steady.
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2 Jul 2020, 19:30 (Ref:3985160)
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Originally Posted by BertMk2
Or will it? A DNF this season will be more damaging - less races to recover the lost points. Will the drivers risk a move for a couple more points or just pocket what they've got? Fortune might favour the steady.
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Fair point.
I guess i was thinking more from the point of view of the midfield driver with more to gain from one outstanding move/race.
Either way though, could be cool to see how this dynamic plays out.
Side thought and perhaps i bit too outside the box...but could their be a problem with the how the teams data analysis/analytics software systems work?
Mind you, I have no idea if their systems are just designed to maximize points for one race at a time or max out points over a season as a whole...or even if this is a thing. 
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2 Jul 2020, 23:08 (Ref:3985197)
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Originally Posted by Richard Casto
I feel like Ferrari is one of those few teams that generally has a handle on what works and what doesn't. I expect they went into testing with very specific ideas of the output and that they didn't see the expected on-track correlation to CFD, tunnel and simulator work. So it probably spooked them (and rightly so)
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Could the change of direction be from a J Vane to a Cape?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/51739796
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3 Jul 2020, 09:56 (Ref:3985249)
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Already Leclerc is saying Ferrari are likely to struggle more in 2020 than in 2019
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5 Jul 2020, 12:05 (Ref:3985776)
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I do wonder just which teams have benefitted from the extra 'virtual' development time. They can go through various iterations of development stages without parts seeing the track, so the greater correlation there is between their tools and the reality, the better. Perhaps it's equally accurate for everyone, but Mercedes look particularly mighty; maybe they would have been in Australia, anyway.
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6 Jul 2020, 23:53 (Ref:3986361)
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there wasn't that much extra time though - the teams were on extended shutdown (which is mandatory) for a significant part of the mid season off season, let alone local lockdowns.
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7 Jul 2020, 09:41 (Ref:3986434)
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Have to say I'm liking the look of the car's noses this season having seen them racing for the first time
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8 Jul 2020, 21:11 (Ref:3986842)
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Looks like Vettel will spend a lot of this year looking at the other end 
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8 Jul 2020, 21:44 (Ref:3986848)
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Looks like Vettel will spend a lot of this year looking at the other end |
Hey, he'll get to see a lot of the Haas, Alpha Romeo and Williams front ends. And maybe a few others as they lap him.
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9 Jul 2020, 14:47 (Ref:3986967)
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I wonder, like others, if he will see out the season. Depending on how long it is of course
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9 Jul 2020, 19:40 (Ref:3987048)
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Just been to check the facilities ahead of next weekend? Landing at Biggin Hill (screenshot from Flightradar just under an hour ago)
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