SuperUtes - Page 21

JAFA851 · 22 Jul 2018, 08:53 (Ref:3837927)

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Originally Posted by Mixer

The things are so roly poly and not made for racing.

Come on now, you can't be serious??

It was a joke when it was announced, it's a joke now, and it'll remain a joke for years to come because the powers that be have spent way too much dough on it and won't want to lose face by admitting it's a joke. Might as well start racing flower pots too.

bludvl_x19 · 22 Jul 2018, 11:09 (Ref:3837950)

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Originally Posted by Jam3s

Top right of the image is the wheel.

Last I heard it was still yet to be located, although the good money is on the dam on the outside of 2 there.

Umai Naa · 22 Jul 2018, 11:12 (Ref:3837952)

They found the wheel in the dam.

mayhem · 22 Jul 2018, 12:13 (Ref:3837975)

How many rollovers in this series so far? 5? Seems, umm, excessive.

On another note, is there any talk of other cars being built right now? When can we expect a fuller grid? Less than a dozen cars is poo.

sizzle · 22 Jul 2018, 12:20 (Ref:3837978)

2 runaway wheels this weekend with axles attached.

They are dangerous. There would have been some explaining to do if either of them had collected a member of the public.

mayhem · 22 Jul 2018, 12:26 (Ref:3837980)

Those things are going to be 'special' coming into the Chase in a few months time.

Forda · 22 Jul 2018, 23:00 (Ref:3838158)

Making international news too:
https://jalopnik.com/australian-raci...s-i-1827784894

Umai Naa · 22 Jul 2018, 23:33 (Ref:3838162)

Wouldn't really consider Jalopnik as a news site.

Forda · 22 Jul 2018, 23:43 (Ref:3838165)

In hindsight, should have perhaps termed it "news".

But in a relatively small sphere of interest, this ungainly racing is now being exposed to a far wider reach.

Umai Naa · 23 Jul 2018, 00:01 (Ref:3838167)

To be honest, I've given the catagory a fair chance.

There's been some great racing, and I love the attitude of the utes when they're on the edge. I like that the teams are really pushing the development of common rail diesel perfomance here in Australia too.

However, I think they really need to choose the tracks they run on more carefully. QR is a car killer and is boring on the TV for most catagories. Sandown is a car killer. Bathurst, they're crazy going there. They seem to suit shorter tracks with corners and kerbs.

In hindsight, they should have pursued the original concept of dropping the bodies over a common spaceframe, with a common V8 engine. Whilst not to everyone's tastes, it would have been much better-received by the great unwashed on social media, and I dare say the uptake from teams would've been greater too.

I'm interested to see what happens beyond this season.

Forda · 23 Jul 2018, 00:22 (Ref:3838169)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

To be honest, I've given the catagory a fair chance.

There's been some great racing, and I love the attitude of the utes when they're on the edge. I like that the teams are really pushing the development of common rail diesel perfomance here in Australia too.

However, I think they really need to choose the tracks they run on more carefully. QR is a car killer and is boring on the TV for most catagories. Sandown is a car killer. Bathurst, they're crazy going there. They seem to suit shorter tracks with corners and kerbs.

In hindsight, they should have pursued the original concept of dropping the bodies over a common spaceframe, with a common V8 engine. Whilst not to everyone's tastes, it would have been much better-received by the great unwashed on social media, and I dare say the uptake from teams would've been greater too.

I'm interested to see what happens beyond this season.

The existing concept is at least representative of how the nation's new preferred choice of personal transport performs when placed onto a racing track.

Any effort to try and hide that (with a silhouette concept) would surely be a big misrepresentation.

This series encapsulates the conundrum of where "touring cars" are currently headed (with relevance to the new car market); and given the old adage "racing improves the breed", wouldn't it be better if these vehicles can be made to work using their actual structural underpinnings?

Umai Naa · 23 Jul 2018, 00:44 (Ref:3838173)

The way they've done it now, offers a bigger catch pool of different utes, of the high ground clearance variety.

Jam3s · 23 Jul 2018, 01:10 (Ref:3838174)

I'd put a tenner on them switching to a V8 engine for next season.

Compromised · 23 Jul 2018, 02:01 (Ref:3838176)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

The way they've done it now, offers a bigger catch pool of different utes, of the high ground clearance variety.

The ground clearance must serve a purpose though, especially if there are any safety concerns

Umai Naa · 23 Jul 2018, 02:39 (Ref:3838178)

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Originally Posted by Compromised

The ground clearance must serve a purpose though, especially if there are any safety concerns

There aren't as many low ground clearance utes on the market.

champcarman · 23 Jul 2018, 04:21 (Ref:3838186)

If the road versions of these things roll as easily as the race versions then I have cause to be worried! There seems to be a lot of them around.

racer69 · 23 Jul 2018, 09:36 (Ref:3838246)

I had my first proper watch of their races this year on the weekend from QR and honestly I didn't mind the racing at all.

I thought the cars looked fine on track, the racing wasn't too bad and i'd watch more of it.

On a general note i completely agree with Umai Naa about consideration when it comes to tracks classes race on, mainly in this case for the likes of Bathurst where if they've only got 10-12 Utes will make for a pretty boring spectacle on a track that large for the spectators

Compromised · 23 Jul 2018, 09:58 (Ref:3838255)

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Originally Posted by racer69

will make for a pretty boring spectacle on a track that large for the spectators

Totally disagree.

Imagine a rollover at the chase? Crowds love that stuff right? Maybe they can roll up and over the walls along the top, they seem to be picking up some really nice altitude on their rolls

Forda · 23 Jul 2018, 23:01 (Ref:3838390)

Are these trucks not able to be, in any way, engineered to stay upright?

Camaroz · 24 Jul 2018, 00:23 (Ref:3838398)

To quote a Senior Supercars Manager at Townsville, "... if the dog has no legs and no head, stop trying to walk it.....". Maybe he should heed his own advice with the superutes!

Compromised · 24 Jul 2018, 02:23 (Ref:3838410)

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Originally Posted by Forda

Are these trucks not able to be, in any way, engineered to stay upright?

Yep...lower them.

They'd be safer, quicker and still retain (enough) model recognition to satisfy the manufacturers (unless they prefer seeing their cars rolling violently on the 6pm news????).

sizzle · 24 Jul 2018, 03:51 (Ref:3838418)

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Originally Posted by Camaroz

To quote a Senior Supercars Manager at Townsville, "... if the dog has no legs and no head, stop trying to walk it.....". Maybe he should heed his own advice with the superutes!

Welcome back

Umai Naa · 24 Jul 2018, 04:20 (Ref:3838420)

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Originally Posted by Compromised

Yep...lower them.

They'd be safer, quicker and still retain (enough) model recognition to satisfy the manufacturers (unless they prefer seeing their cars rolling violently on the 6pm news????).

High ground clearance chassis prevents them from going any lower. It's a 4WD chassis, sans the front diff and transfer case.

Not all models homologated, have a proper low 2WD chassis available in dual cab length.

Can either heavily modify something, or drop the cab and tub onto something bespoke, to get the desired ride height.

Jam3s · 24 Jul 2018, 04:24 (Ref:3838421)

They could reduce the wheel size a bit as long as the brake package fits and probably get a couple extra inches from suspension. Even 4-6 inches would make a big difference.

The proportions would look silly though which is likely important to the category and what they're trying to achieve.

Oldtony · 24 Jul 2018, 06:51 (Ref:3838426)

As a matter of interest are there many mechanical modifications to the power train or is the extra power predominantly chip programming?
They seem to have kept the black smoke to a reasonable level.