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Old 22 Jan 2021, 20:50 (Ref:4030754)   #211
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It's not going to happen then either. Not this year, not with spectators. Quite probably not next year either.
No, I don't agree with that, that really is pessimism.
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Old 23 Jan 2021, 00:05 (Ref:4030763)   #212
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No, I don't agree with that, that really is pessimism.
There isn't even a timeline for vaccinating everyone who would need to be before mass gatherings can resume. Once they have worked out child immunisations then, perhaps, large mass gatherings might be a possibility.

France has an enormous anti-vaccination sentiment and they are currently extremely far behind many other countries in terms of progress.

I've been wrong before though. I didn't think as much sport would run behind closed-doors as it did last year, however hollow an experience a lot of it was.

The idea of 250,000 spectators decending on Le Mans this year is folly however.
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Old 23 Jan 2021, 08:32 (Ref:4030794)   #213
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No, I don't agree with that, that really is pessimism.

Perhaps it is, but in Spring last year we were coming to terms with the reality that there would be no June race, which was followed by a no-spectator race in September.

We're now discussing the probability of no June 2021 race and the Covid situation is worse than it was last spring. The vaccine ought to help eventiually, but so far its efficacy - short and long-term is an unknown. Le Mans 2022 is by no means a certainty.

It's a sad situation, but as Kpy states, for some of us, surviving the current situation is as far ahead as we dare look.
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Old 23 Jan 2021, 14:12 (Ref:4030820)   #214
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Yeah, maybe I'm trying to find some 'happy' medium between Simon's extreme optimism and my own tempered version. The bottom line, of course, is to stem the tide of illness and death and to make sure we all keep safe and as well as we can. Assuming that we do get back at some point, it's going to feel pretty strange - to me, anyway.

PS I never thought for a moment that 250,000 spectators at Le Mans any time this year was even a remote possibility.

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Old 23 Jan 2021, 15:35 (Ref:4030829)   #215
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There are no such reports here in Denmark. The statement here is still that it provides full immunity for a period of time. I would therefore like to politely question your source for this statement?
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i like being called an "extreme optimist" but i prefer "ever hopeful"
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To be clear the NHS website says;

The 1st dose of the COVID-19 vaccine should give you good protection from coronavirus. But you need to have the 2 doses of the vaccine to give you longer lasting protection.

There is a chance you might still get or spread coronavirus even if you have the vaccine.

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continue to follow social distancing guidance
if you can, wear something that covers your nose and mouth in places where it's hard to stay away from other people
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There isn't even a timeline for vaccinating everyone who would need to be before mass gatherings can resume. Once they have worked out child immunisations then, perhaps, large mass gatherings might be a possibility.
I don't think kids under 16 (or maybe 18?) are going to get vaccination in the UK.

The 'vaccination to do anything' concept kind of makes sense now while the death rates are so bad. But once the curve flattens again in Spring and the most vulnerable percentage have had their jabs - from an economic perspective there HAS to be an acceptance that things need to return to a 'new normal'. And that's before you consider the human rights aspect of mandatory injections.

Past a certain point I assume people will be asked to decide their personal level of risk and act accordingly.

If I had to make a prediction I'd say we get something like last year (late August/September) but with limited fans again, and it will be subject to national group gathering laws.
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I have heard that tickets for the french GP have gone on sale, ok not le mans but a good sign for le mans i think
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I have heard that tickets for the french GP have gone on sale, ok not le mans but a good sign for le mans i think
unfortunately not true
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Depends where you look
https://motorsporttickets.com/en-gb/f1/france/tickets

Personally I think it's unlikely to happen and for the avoidance of doubt I will not be investing in French GP tickets this year, but someone's clearly optimistic.
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