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Old 19 Jan 2020, 15:46 (Ref:3952303)   #2251
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I stand by what I said. Anyway moving on, letís see if Saudi can do better than Bahrain and UAE in terms of building a great race track and getting a good attendance
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Old 19 Jan 2020, 16:10 (Ref:3952304)   #2252
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One major difficulty attendance is that the Islamic working week is Saturday to Thursday. That leaves only Friday free for attendees. And that is prayer day.
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Old 19 Jan 2020, 19:57 (Ref:3952333)   #2253
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I'm pretty sure that Liberty wouldn't mind a Saturday race.
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Old 19 Jan 2020, 21:06 (Ref:3952348)   #2254
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Last Saturday race was South Africa in 1985. Now MotoGP donít even run the Dutch TT on a Saturday anymore.
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Old 19 Jan 2020, 23:41 (Ref:3952373)   #2255
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I think itís all controlled now, so itís always a Sunday race
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Old 20 Jan 2020, 00:38 (Ref:3952385)   #2256
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I think it’s all controlled now, so it’s always a Sunday race
If there was a good enough reason, religion/different sabbath, and the was a $$$$ufficient smoothing process for it.

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My point was more that Bahrain and Abu Dhabi suffer from poor crowds because of this circumstance.
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My point was more that Bahrain and Abu Dhabi suffer from poor crowds because of this circumstance.
Indeed....

We may not like many more races in the region, more say than in Europe or even the States but there has to be proper planning to take into account local traditions and culture. Otherwise no-one will show up and that would defeat the object.
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Old 21 Jan 2020, 03:50 (Ref:3952522)   #2259
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My point was more that Bahrain and Abu Dhabi suffer from poor crowds because of this circumstance.
I would have thought that poor track attendance is due to motorsport just not being part of their culture. Not wanting to be xenophobic, but motorsport is culturally and historically European/Western. This is where the automobile industry started.
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My point was more that Bahrain and Abu Dhabi suffer from poor crowds because of this circumstance.
I thought TV was the great draw anyway? A remote venue, no F1 culture, held on a day when locals can't attend - sounds like an F1 dream. These darned spectators get in the way. Why don't they just watch it on TV?

I'm sure neither Liberty nor the teams would lose any sleep about the lack of spectators. 100,000 people at Silverstone? A drop in the ocean.

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I would have thought that poor track attendance is due to motorsport just not being part of their culture. Not wanting to be xenophobic, but motorsport is culturally and historically European/Western.

BJ, I suggest that you don't try telling the Japanese that. There they have some of the most fervent followers of all forms of motorsport in the world.

For example, immediately after the end of the GP in Silverstone, the entire place becomes like a ghost town, apart from the relatively few who stay to go to the entertainment stage. However, in Suzuka, after the end of the race, thousands continue to sit overlooking the track to watch re-runs of the F1 race on the giant screens dotted around the circuit which continues into the night.
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BJ, I suggest that you don't try telling the Japanese that. There they have some of the most fervent followers of all forms of motorsport in the world.

For example, immediately after the end of the GP in Silverstone, the entire place becomes like a ghost town, apart from the relatively few who stay to go to the entertainment stage. However, in Suzuka, after the end of the race, thousands continue to sit overlooking the track to watch re-runs of the F1 race on the giant screens dotted around the circuit which continues into the night.
My comment was in reference to the possibility of yet another GP in the Middle-East and low crowd attendance. I'm well aware of how popular motorsport is in Japan.
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i would add the cost of tickets (last time i looked, Abu Dhabi main grandstand is close to twice the price of a comparable seat in Montreal) paired with income inequality within the region. they draw upon a smaller group with the required disposable income, desire, and/or ability to attend.

so i think it has to be said that the promoters are not looking to host an event that draws in over 100K+ people on race day. imo, they are looking to create an exclusive event/experience with a much smaller, and all be it wealthier, crowd by design.

i dont have numbers, and in fairness, but how different are the attendance levels of Abu Dhabi compared to, F1's traditional mecca of exclusive events, the Monaco GP?
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Iím sure there are plenty of fans who would rather go to Monaco once than Abu Dhabi five times. So I would suggest Monaco attendance would be somewhat higher
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Every time I've watched the Abu Dhabi GP, the crowd predominantly seems to be made up of European ex-pats, with a few celebrities thrown in, for good measure.
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