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HUNGARORING CLASSIC (Peter Auto)
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Peter Auto return to Budapest for a second visit. In 2017 the grids weren't huge, but everyone who did attend enjoyed the event, especially the saturday evening Danube floating restaurant supper....
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Old 14 Jul 2019, 06:58 (Ref:3917454)   #61
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I watched the race on the stream for the first hour plus until the pitstop window closed and it looked pretty slippery at the start. Looks like part of the track was very slow to dry too.
Great result for the SLR despite its heavy penalty. Love the look of that car.
Wow, impressive that the event coverage has spread worldwide! The Hungarian organisers worked very hard on getting their national TV network to cover it. They just need more of the local population (or from other countries) to attend in person in order to cover the costs of staging it.

Will, you asked the question regarding Peter Auto using rows of tents to house cars in the individual grids. Sorry, it’s a good question and I wasn’t ignoring it, but hadn’t got time to immediately respond. There are, as you would expect, pros and cons, but from a spectator perspective they show all the cars from any particular race together, close up. It can be an impressive sight. From the team’s point of view, if they only have one or two cars at the meeting, like us, it is not too awkward to divide yourselves between them. Dijon is the most difficult, as the 60s Endurance grid is usually completely outside the circuit in a car park / paddock. It’s a long haul to the CER area in the main paddock! Some big preparers, with cars in many grids, get ‘dispensation’ to have a car or cars in the wrong area to make looking after them easier. At one time if your car wasn’t on display during the day, uncovered, you would get a penalty! Think they’ve relaxed a little on that now, but my view is that it’s great to have the cars lined up together. There are individual circuit paddock issues like steep slopes, rough tarmac, smelly toilets etc., that can make it less satisfactory for the teams, plus weather related issues, like strong winds, that forced the organising team to take them all down at one meeting while the cars were all still underneath!

There are always mini hospitality areas in each grid paddock for competitors, where they can relax, chat and get hot / cold drinks, fruit, biscuits etc., Very convenient when you have no base in the paddock and your road car is parked outside the circuit....

It must be a considerable overhead for PA to use tents, as it usually means having to ‘book’ the circuit for one or two extra days for erection and dismantling after, and have several articulated trucks to transport everything. The team that do the work also have to stay on site all weekend, and usually have their own little area with motorhomes for accommodation!
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Old 14 Jul 2019, 07:05 (Ref:3917455)   #62
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Agreed, Jean Michel! From Mike's picture, I'd like to add that I'm a great fan, her smile, her curves and gesture, everything!
Gerard, I’m guessing you were winding me up a few posts back suggesting the SLR is based on a TR chassis! There is one TR SLR (plus a new replica), of course, but the other 3 are based on Morgan +4 underpinnings.......

Anyway, having looked at the race data, the shiny car did really well again, and it’s fastest lap was not far off the quickest Elan.
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Thanks very much for the in depth question Mike.I think its certainly better than going to some meetings and half the cars are hidden away at the back of of awning with a truck by it

.Donington Historic for example had one team 3 cars deep in there setup with the 3 cara across.All E Types though ��.

Good luck with the Chevron today.
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What another brilliant Group C race. Best races of the weekend by far at the moment.
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Not many starters in CER2.Starting to struggle for entries a bit this series.
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Not many starters in CER2.Starting to struggle for entries a bit this series.
Struggle compared with a year or two ago, maybe, but hardly down to the level of some other series!

I wouldn’t mind betting that it picks up next year, when Le Mans Classic is on, as many car owners will want an entry for that.....
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Gerard, I’m guessing you were winding me up a few posts back suggesting the SLR is based on a TR chassis!
You know me, Mike, you know me! Yes teasing and reminding a youngster here for his first visit to a certain garage…
Not really good news for the championship, the winning 26R is not the "good" one tho… Lets see what will happen at Monza.
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908 and what looks like a Lola had a collision. Shame that.Had to look away...
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Struggle compared with a year or two ago, maybe, but hardly down to the level of some other series!

I wouldn’t mind betting that it picks up next year, when Le Mans Classic is on, as many car owners will want an entry for that.....
Should invite maybe some Can-Am cars to the series maybe. If there obviously any out there.

Do like the Lola T600.Basically a small Grp C car.
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Watching the livestream and the 917 just looks incredible and another level. Up to P3 now.
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I can't watch. How close the 917 is getting to the Chevrons.
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So as the race is going on, the director or whoever is in charge of pictures for the livestream is instead showing men and women dancing

I had to try out these emotes things.
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Watching the livestream and the 917 just looks incredible and another level. Up to P3 now.
The 917 owner was telling us that he wouldn’t be competitive in the race, as the car was in desperate need of re-preparing...... While on display at the Chantilly Concours event two weeks ago, He decided to use it for a 100km Tour that was part of the event. The car was then rushed over to the UK for Goodwood FoS, and after that, taken over to Hungary for this meeting! Most owners wouldn’t do that with an MGB, let alone a Porsche 917....

The Vogele 908/3 was looking very worse for wear after the 1st lap accident- front right corner severely damaged, including suspension. Hopefully there will be time to sort it before Monza.

‘Our’ Chevron B19 was swamped at the start by T70s, and lost several places. What happens when qualifying is wet and the race starts dry! Lot of time lost with Safety Car periods, and we weren’t expecting a good finishing position, but near the end, helped by a little rain, the car shot up to P5 o/a and P2 in the Under 2L Proto class. So another podium for the happy drivers, and more Hungarian Champagne!

I really enjoyed the event, despite the traffic issues encountered getting there! If only the rest of Europe had major roads as good as the French Autoroutes. As I’ve said before, the enthusiasm shown by the organisers, circuit and local population for the event is amazing. I managed to look round all the displays briefly on Sunday, and could have happily spent a whole day looking....

Fingers crossed the event gets repeated in 2021, and more competitors make the trip!
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The 917 owner was telling us that he wouldn’t be competitive in the race, as the car was in desperate need of re-preparing...... While on display at the Chantilly Concours event two weeks ago, He decided to use it for a 100km Tour that was part of the event. The car was then rushed over to the UK for Goodwood FoS, and after that, taken over to Hungary for this meeting! Most owners wouldn’t do that with an MGB, let alone a Porsche 917....

Hoping it will be at Paul Ricard in which I am planning to attend hopefully.

The car looked like it wasnt even going at half top performance on the stream (I'm sure it looked 100 at the track).

Wish one of them could be at the Silverstone Classic.

Very lucky that there is obviously a owner who races it regularly and wants to get it shown to as many people as possible.

Shame not more could take a leaf out of his book and race them rather than just demoing them at Goodowood or being kept away.
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Very lucky that there is obviously a owner who races it regularly and wants to get it shown to as many people as possible.

Shame not more could take a leaf out of his book and race them rather than just demoing them at Goodowood or being kept away.
I thinks the 917 has done all rounds this year? If so, would hope it will be doing the last two as well. Obviously a mechanical ‘catastrophe’ or accident could change that, but it is beautifully driven and as you say, fantastic for us that it is raced so much....
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