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View Poll Results: What's your score for the Spanish Grand Prix?
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Old 15 May 2018, 19:22 (Ref:3822676)   #31
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There is a case though for not letting backmarkers unlap themselves. I think itís fairer at times to have the VSC. If youíre a lap down then tough. Also SCs are no longer unnecessarily used since the introduction of VSC
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Old 15 May 2018, 19:24 (Ref:3822678)   #32
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What is the difference and benefit?
Much safer and much less variance. Everyone just goes on the limiter and stays there.


I think one of the problems is perhaps that the shitty tyres need constant weaving to keep up the temperature
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Old 15 May 2018, 21:33 (Ref:3822703)   #33
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.... there is something to be said for bunching up the field and getting everyone back on the lead lap even if it takes a few extra laps to accomplish....
There is NOTHING to be said good about it. It is completely contrary to the concept of a sport. Randomly taking away an advantage that a driver has built up on merit.

I didn't know about the FCY but the speed limiter idea is just what I was advocating several years ago. Let's do it! And introduce a no weaving rule too. Cold tyres? Tough. It's the same for everyone. Deal with it!
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Old 15 May 2018, 22:00 (Ref:3822711)   #34
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The only good thing is it prevents red flags. So thatís a price to pay. I canít see FCY being adopted. And warming of tyres has always happened and always will
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Old 15 May 2018, 23:47 (Ref:3822721)   #35
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There is NOTHING to be said good about it. It is completely contrary to the concept of a sport. Randomly taking away an advantage that a driver has built up on merit.
on one hand i completely agree. on the other hand i cant pretend LH's time advantage was built up purely by his own merit.

we can talk about modifying tracks to create closer racing, we can say get rid of aero and the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of development advantage some teams have, we can talk about budget caps, resource restrictions and fair wealth distribution etc etc.

at the end of the day these are all artificial suggestions aimed at removing advantages confirmed onto one team over another because one has more money and for me money isnt sport.

this is a big business sport (and probably now days more entertainment then sport) so it always going to be hard to reconcile these sorts of ideas.
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Old 16 May 2018, 07:28 (Ref:3822762)   #36
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on one hand i completely agree. on the other hand i cant pretend LH's time advantage was built up purely by his own merit.
Puzzled by that one. By whose merit did he build it up then?
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Puzzled by that one. By whose merit did he build it up then?
i just meant that, all things being equal, the top three teams enjoy a massive car advantage so its not just down to the driver.

for example, Alonso finished 1 lap down compared to the podium sitters and he is one of the highest rated drivers on the grid...anyways i dont think im saying anything out of the ordinary by suggesting the cars themselves played a role in the large time gaps we saw in the race.

also i was probably rebuffing the notion of what actually constitutes an 'artificial suggestion/rule' in a manufacturing based sport.

in other words, mainly just stuff i am prone to talk about in the aftermath of a sub par race...if this race was better i would be saying 'dont change a thing'!
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A driver can only perform faultlessly, in whatever circumstances he finds himself. By that token, he did it entirely by his own merit, IMO. (But I understand your thinking).
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What about the team and driver built up the advantage on their own merit? This being the point of the sport.
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Old 16 May 2018, 20:08 (Ref:3822913)   #40
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Yes F1 rewards skill and hardwork. Itís stupid to give it up for the sake of it
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