CROFT ‘RETRO & CLASSIC’ WEEKEND (HSCC)

[Mike Bell]

Formally and simply ‘Croft Nostalgia’. The HSCC annual visit to Croft. Expect military display, planes and lots of classic cars. Edit- no mention of military displays yet.... https://www.croftcircuit.co.uk/racing/retroweekend

To include Jaguar Classic Challenge 60 min race.

[Malcolm Smith]

Entry list:

https://hscc.org.uk/wp-content/uploa...ic-Weekend.pdf

Hopefully a few more touring cars will appear.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Smith

Entry list:

https://hscc.org.uk/wp-content/uploa...ic-Weekend.pdf

Hopefully a few more touring cars will appear.

Classic Jags look a bit thin as well. Especially for 30 mins of qualifying and a 1hr race all on Saturday.



Likewise the FF1600s compared to recent times. An hour of Sunday track time, in total, looking a tad competitor light. Hopefully it will fill out a bit in the next week.

[Belmondo]

Some decent grids there, but what has happened to the touring cars?

[Dan Rear]

And the FFs??

[coppice]

Bloody dreadful showing from nearly every race - very disappointing . And an awful advert to the many locals who tend to come to this meeting and BTCC only .

[Malcolm Smith]

Comparison of entries in recent years is attached.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by Malcolm Smith

Comparison of entries in recent years is attached.

Interesting, Malcolm! Thanks for that. The Jag Challenge seems to be fading away, as the last (non championship) round at Dijon in June was cancelled due to lack of entries. Very surprised by FF numbers, but perhaps F3 has been affected by the proximity (in time) of last weekend’s Silverstone Classic races?

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by coppice

Bloody dreadful showing from nearly every race - very disappointing . And an awful advert to the many locals who tend to come to this meeting and BTCC only .

This is always a problem when Croft is only one week after Silverstone Classic.
As the Silverstone meeting is one of the historic calendar's top dogs (and, I'm sure, would not contemplate taking Croft's first August weekend in to consideration) then Croft must change their date to ensure a 2 week gap.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by morninggents

This is always a problem when Croft is only one week after Silverstone Classic.
As the Silverstone meeting is one of the historic calendar's top dogs (and, I'm sure, would not contemplate taking Croft's first August weekend in to consideration) then Croft must change their date to ensure a 2 week gap.

Silverstone Classic date is very much governed by the Brit GP date, two weeks between so that the same temporary infrastructure can be used for both. Not quite such a consideration, but Nürburgring OldTimer is the weekend after Croft, and the two have clashed before.

And they can't move to later in August because that's The Gold Cup's slot...…

[coppice]

Originally Posted by morninggents

This is always a problem when Croft is only one week after Silverstone Classic.
As the Silverstone meeting is one of the historic calendar's top dogs (and, I'm sure, would not contemplate taking Croft's first August weekend in to consideration) then Croft must change their date to ensure a 2 week gap.

I am aware of that but it as FF1600 , for one , wasn't at the Classic , it isn't the only reason . Croft never overflows with entries but this is the worst yet.

[gary396]

Be aware that if anyone intends travelling from the north-west via the scenic route through the Yorkshire Dales (or even staying up there - I think some have in the past) - there was a lot of flooding there yesterday. At least one bridge collapsed, properties flooded, roads closed and a fair bit of disruption

Mainly in Swaledale but maybe other areas? Hopefully the main routes (or whatever passes for main routes in the Dales) will be clear by then but 'just in case'.

[Willmaz223]

Did the organisers think they were going to get any sort of decent turnout for the Jag race.?

[coppice]

Whatever genius that thought it a good idea to stage a 60 minute Jaguar race for just half a dozen cars , really does need to think again . Those of who had not left already were still weeping with boredom by the time the last two races were staged . Compared to every previous Nostalgia meeting(to which this is equivalent ) this feels flat and really rather dull. Good on the folk who have turned up to race , especially the good number of FF2000s , but it's a meeting defined by absences, with some very thin grids .

[gary396]

Originally Posted by coppice

Whatever genius that thought it a good idea to stage a 60 minute Jaguar race for just half a dozen cars , really does need to think again . Those of who had not left already were still weeping with boredom by the time the last two races were staged . Compared to every previous Nostalgia meeting(to which this is equivalent ) this feels flat and really rather dull. Good on the folk who have turned up to race , especially the good number of FF2000s , but it's a meeting defined by absences, with some very thin grids .

Sums up my fears for this meeting I'm afraid. First one I've missed and being local feel a bit 'guilty' about that but I thought last year was a bit flat and decided to give this year a miss.

[Malcolm Smith]

Enjoyed Sunday at Croft, great weather and classic car & motor bike displays added to enjoyment. Saw most of the races, avoiding some which were low on numbers or I thought could be processional. Highlight was the 70s Road Sports which had battles throughout the field. Historic Road Sports also very good.

Photos attached.

[Malcolm Smith]

Photos 2.

[Malcolm Smith]

Photos 3.

[morninggents]

Originally Posted by gary396

Sums up my fears for this meeting I'm afraid. First one I've missed and being local feel a bit 'guilty' about that but I thought last year was a bit flat and decided to give this year a miss.

Yes, not quite the same buzz as some previous years. Unlike previous years there seemed to be far more spectators on Saturday than Sunday, perhaps because the weather forecast for Saturday was better although both days turned out to be warm and pleasant. There seemed to be less infield activity/car clubs than previous years. I wonder if the change of name from 'Nostalgia' had some effect.


The Formula Fords (14 cars) and Historic Touring Cars were disappointingly sparse (and, unsurprisingly, the Jag race) but both had entertaining scraps down the field. The first FF race had several lead changes in the last couple of laps and the HTCs had close races for the lead and three cars scrapping for last place in both their races. The HTCs had only 10 cars for qualifying but all ten started and finished both races - reliability at least!

[Heightswitch]

Well I enjoyed both my races.

Its a great little event with lots to see and do and some good racing to boot. No silly entrance prices and on site catering etc all good quality. Historic racing bikes, military displays, classic cars and Good historic racing... I think there is just a mentality by a lot of the racing fraternity that the world stops at Silverstone....

Racers who have never visited croft, Cadwell, Anglesey are generally missing the best circuits in the country... You would think all the shandy drinkers would welcome the escape from the M25 circus!! Big thanks from me to the HSCC and HRS guys who continue to support this little gem of an event.... the atmosphere is very good and the weather held up.

[Willmaz223]

The Touring car race was boring with about 10 cars.

TBH the Jag race was alright at the start on the comms anyway.

Although when you get people who normally get lapped when the series has a good grid winning its not great.Anyway good for those who turned up for thst one.

Most grids were poor which is no surprise.What can they and we do to get bigger grids.No shortage ot cars out there to race.

[Alan Morgan]

You would think all the shandy drinkers would welcome the escape from the M25 circus!!

Speaking as one of the "M25 Circus" (Junction 11 - Chertsey). We've had a couple of great weekends. Superb weather at Anglesey and good weather at Croft.

Oulton is a bit less attractive for us as (being the last race on Monday) we have to endure the journey home on the M6 on a Bank Holiday. However, we've still got the best entry of the meeting there, as we had at Anglesey and Croft. I get a lot more whinges from drivers from the North West about travelling to Brands than I do from drivers in the South travelling back from Oulton on a Bank Holiday.

Just saying

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Alan Morgan

Speaking as one of the "M25 Circus" (Junction 11 - Chertsey). We've had a couple of great weekends. Superb weather at Anglesey and good weather at Croft.

Oulton is a bit less attractive for us as (being the last race on Monday) we have to endure the journey home on the M6 on a Bank Holiday. However, we've still got the best entry of the meeting there, as we had at Anglesey and Croft. I get a lot more whinges from drivers from the North West about travelling to Brands than I do from drivers in the South travelling back from Oulton on a Bank Holiday.

Just saying

Visually the best bet after Oulton would be to try to secure a test day at Anglesey on the Tuesday and enjoy that before heading south (or wherever) once again. Much of Cheshire and a lot of North Wales to enjoy whilst in the vicinity and give the traffic a chance to sort itself out after whatever the BH weekend throws at it.


I canp;t think of a better way to start the Autumn (always assuming the weather plays ball.)