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Old 13 Jul 2018, 23:14 (Ref:3836578)   #871
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3 illegal cars do not play nice for Hyundai reputation and credibility.
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Old 17 Jul 2018, 12:54 (Ref:3837111)   #872
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Interesting read ó https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...hows-slovakia/

The whole thing could blow up in their faces if the FIA and WSC are not careful.

In essence, WSC weren't/aren't very good at BoP management, the FIA then butted in with a grey-area boost rule. Now neither has the higher ground.
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Old 17 Jul 2018, 13:48 (Ref:3837128)   #873
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This reminds me of that Pau race in 2008 or 2009 when the SEAT Leon TDi was dominating everything and the FIA issued some kind of “max boost tolerance” rule (from memory it was some kind of variable which I dare say SEAT were stretching to the limit) and it resulted in SEAT basically having to run a lower boost for the first time and then they threw their toys out of the pram because Alfa, BMW Honda could actually compete.

I don't wish to labour the point and its all said and done now, but that whole SEAT TDi debacle was precisely that, a joke.
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 07:38 (Ref:3837235)   #874
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http://www.serbiaring.com/vesti/komi...vicevom-renou/

Stefano Comini was set to drive Vukovic Renault Megane in WTCR, but the car wasn't ready (like it's ready now )
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Old 18 Jul 2018, 10:55 (Ref:3837285)   #875
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The whole thing could blow up in their faces if the FIA and WSC are not careful.

We may have the start of the end of WTCR era. Eurosport Events and WSC are together in same ship but they are not the best friends. False information is easy to get removed. The truth is a lot harder.
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Old 19 Jul 2018, 08:16 (Ref:3837439)   #876
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Stefano Comini was set to drive Vukovic Renault Megane in WTCR, but the car wasn't ready (like it's ready now )

Good article. My Serbian sucks but Google Translator does the job.

Comini is still missed in WTCR as Renault is.


Meanwhile Ceccon seems to have good chances to continue at Team Mulsanne (Google Translator recommended too) http://sportmotores.com/portal/!site...20055&id=52205
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Old 20 Jul 2018, 08:55 (Ref:3837659)   #877
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Good article. My Serbian sucks but Google Translator does the job.

Comini is still missed in WTCR as Renault is.


Meanwhile Ceccon seems to have good chances to continue at Team Mulsanne (Google Translator recommended too) http://sportmotores.com/portal/!site...20055&id=52205

Comini should race in WTCR but with a good car. This Renault seems not ready to compete for this year...

Ceccon wasn't so bad in the GP2 and GP3 and he has a good experience. He could prove to be a good prospect for touring car racing. Let's see...
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Old 20 Jul 2018, 11:07 (Ref:3837673)   #878
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We may have the start of the end of WTCR era. Eurosport Events and WSC are together in same ship but they are not the best friends. False information is easy to get removed. The truth is a lot harder.
I'm really curious about what the future for WTCR (WTCC?) is. I mean, as far as I remember, the deal for TCR cars expires at the end of 2019. I can't help the feeling that WTCR is just a temporary solution but given Eurosport and WSC relations and Ribeiro and Lotti relationship (not good at all) I think Ribeiro will work for WTCC rebirth in 2020 with more powerful cars, manufacturers, etc. There have already been rumours about Hans Werner Aufrecht's involvement, adopting Class One (it won't happen though), etc.
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Old 20 Jul 2018, 21:28 (Ref:3837745)   #879
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There have already been rumours about Hans Werner Aufrecht's involvement, adopting Class One (it won't happen though), etc.

If Class One really picks up, that is the way to go. WTCR is just a transition phase. It won't last forever. The Bible tells us to love our neighbors, and also to love our enemies; probably because generally they are the same people.
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Old 21 Jul 2018, 12:38 (Ref:3837818)   #880
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If Class One really picks up, that is the way to go. WTCR is just a transition phase. It won't last forever. The Bible tells us to love our neighbors, and also to love our enemies; probably because generally they are the same people.
Yes but Class One belongs to DTM owners and they're not going to sell it to Eurosport or WTCC. Especially because DTM theoretically is still a German championship (ok, theoretically) while WTCR (or WTCC) is a world championship so the same rules in both DTM and WTCC would be a blow for the former. That surely won't happen. In a way I agree with what Jens Marquardt once said: there's almost no place for World Championship in touring cars. History says it all. Since the 1950s we've had continuously British championship, Australian championship, German championship and all of them are quite formidable, especially the last two ones, as BTCC is unfortunately amateurish nowadays. When it comes to World Championship there were on and off championships with a complete lack of stability.

Coming back to the topic, Class One in WTCC won't happen unless, for whatever reason, it slips from DTM's control. Also, if Eurosport and WTCC organisers couldn't attract interest from both manufacturers and fans in the last years of existence (for financial reasons too), they wouldn't attract interest with Class One rules.
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Old 23 Jul 2018, 08:40 (Ref:3838223)   #881
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as BTCC is unfortunately amateurish nowadays
There speaks someone without any knowledge.

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there's almost no place for World Championship in touring cars. History says it all.
2005-2010 was a rich patch, if you missed that.
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Old 23 Jul 2018, 11:56 (Ref:3838276)   #882
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[QUOTE=BobJones;3838223]There speaks someone without any knowledge.


Sadly BTCC is a 'push to pass' championship and a favoured driver get to push more than others and get away with it. Shedden cannot use these tactics in WTCR to the same effect as he deployed it in BTCC and look how well he is doing compared to Vernay in the same equipment.

BTCC is also full of pay drivers with limited talent and large amounts of money. It is 'all about the money' these days.

BTCC is overrated and this is from somebody who used to attend all of the meetings over the last 10 years and has watched it for the last 30 years and more.
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Old 23 Jul 2018, 12:02 (Ref:3838278)   #883
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Have you even seen the BTCC these days? The push to pass tactics are a lot less these days. Also for a series that you claim has drivers with more backing than talent, itís amazing how competitive it is. So many different winners, several different makes of cars and so many drivers getting into the top ten at least once in the season. All this in a 32 car grid
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Old 23 Jul 2018, 12:38 (Ref:3838286)   #884
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Sadly BTCC is a 'push to pass' championship and a favoured driver get to push more than others and get away with it. Shedden cannot use these tactics in WTCR to the same effect as he deployed it in BTCC and look how well he is doing compared to Vernay in the same equipment.
Didn't he get pole in his TCR debut last year?
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Old 23 Jul 2018, 14:28 (Ref:3838303)   #885
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Sadly BTCC is a 'push to pass' championship and a favoured driver get to push more than others and get away with it. Shedden cannot use these tactics in WTCR to the same effect as he deployed it in BTCC and look how well he is doing compared to Vernay in the same equipment.

BTCC is also full of pay drivers with limited talent and large amounts of money. It is 'all about the money' these days.

BTCC is overrated and this is from somebody who used to attend all of the meetings over the last 10 years and has watched it for the last 30 years and more.
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