IMSA USCC in 2016 and 2017 - Page 97

Deleted · 11 Dec 2015, 20:19 (Ref:3597161)

Guess so joeb.

Anyhow, of course the bodykit is mandatory for OEMs, NASCAR doesn't want repeat of DPs (well they do but this is the only minor exception in list

) where no-one but Chevrolet botherd to bring up the external bodies... you know with Ford just slapping the engine to the Riley and effectively rebranding the package as Ford Ecoboost. They don't want zero efforts from manufacturers... they want sort-of efforts

Also "helps" in bopping the OEM cars separately from bare-body ACO legal Orecas and whatever... it's not like the engines are the only side this gang is controlling, and then there's aero wind tunnel too...

HORNDAWG · 12 Dec 2015, 00:09 (Ref:3597209)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

I wasn't aware that the bodywork was compulsory. So a team would have to buy two sets of bodywork (three if there's a Daytona set too) if they want to run Le Mans. A team can't use an IMSA engine and normal P2 bodywork in IMSA.

What makes you think that running the OEM bodywork is compulsory? It only states that the OEM must also build bodywork to compliment an engine not that they must be run together.

L.P.

Deleted · 12 Dec 2015, 00:33 (Ref:3597211)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

What makes you think that running the OEM bodywork is compulsory? It only states that the OEM must also build bodywork to compliment an engine not that they must be run together.

L.P.

Can be read in both ways...I disagree with your assesment. You may with mine/ours

Anyway... I doubt every chassis is gonna be able to acommodate whatever random engines and bodies anyway, OEM will make special deal with Riley or whomever (and maybe some another).

Furthermore if you're running say GM body, does anyone think they're gonna allow Alfa Romeo engine in it. Or GM body with Zytek spec engine. Or GM engine in mere Oreca standard body...

rich07 · 12 Dec 2015, 10:22 (Ref:3597267)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Aston is an official series partner now. So that just leaves the Merc and McLaren's on the sidelines?

Good to hear

I'm guessing Aston paid in full, I can't see Kevin Buckler splitting the bill like Keating and Dodge did haha

**joeb** · 12 Dec 2015, 14:14 (Ref:3597299)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

What makes you think that running the OEM bodywork is compulsory? It only states that the OEM must also build bodywork to compliment an engine not that they must be run together.

L.P.

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Can be read in both ways...I disagree with your assesment. You may with mine/ours

Anyway... I doubt every chassis is gonna be able to acommodate whatever random engines and bodies anyway, OEM will make special deal with Riley or whomever (and maybe some another).

Furthermore if you're running say GM body, does anyone think they're gonna allow Alfa Romeo engine in it. Or GM body with Zytek spec engine. Or GM engine in mere Oreca standard body...

Since we haven't seen the official regs for 2017 yet we don't know for sure what will be allowed. Even if something is reported as the way it will be, the series can change its mind. That being said, I still think that if a team wants to run a off the shelf 2017 P2 in imsa they will be allowed. Whether or not they can switch the engine remains to be seen, but I think imsa might be keen to that. There is even still a chance for current P2's to be grandfathered for 2017 - especially for the early season enduros.

Dyson Mazda · 12 Dec 2015, 14:21 (Ref:3597301)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Since we haven't seen the official regs for 2017 yet we don't know for sure what will be allowed. Even if something is reported as the way it will be, the series can change its mind. That being said, I still think that if a team wants to run a off the shelf 2017 P2 in imsa they will be allowed. Whether or not they can switch the engine remains to be seen, but I think imsa might be keen to that. There is even still a chance for current P2's to be grandfathered for 2017 - especially for the early season enduros.

I would bet a $1 or 2 that the DP's are still going to be allowed for the 2017 Rolex 24 for purely logistical reasons (but I think they will be a second or two off the pace). There are a lot of P2's that have to be developed, built, and tested over the next year and the time-frame is pretty crunched.

wdave0 · 12 Dec 2015, 14:27 (Ref:3597302)

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Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

I would bet a $1 or 2 that the DP's are still going to be allowed for the 2017 Rolex 24 for purely logistical reasons (but I think they will be a second or two off the pace). There are a lot of P2's that have to be developed, built, and tested over the next year and the time-frame is pretty crunched.

They have already said the P2s will be grandfathered for at last one year as in ELMS and Asia, but not DP's (yet).

MaskedRacer · 12 Dec 2015, 15:15 (Ref:3597308)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

They have already said the P2s will be grandfathered for at last one year as in ELMS and Asia, but not DP's (yet).

But it would not surprise me if the current DP';s are given a waiver to be eligible to compete just for the 2017 Daytona 24 only. To give the teams more time to get the DPI cars ready for Sebring in March. Gives them that extra 2 month window.

BullMan · 12 Dec 2015, 17:08 (Ref:3597322)

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Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

But it would not surprise me if the current DP';s are given a waiver to be eligible to compete just for the 2017 Daytona 24 only. To give the teams more time to get the DPI cars ready for Sebring in March. Gives them that extra 2 month window.

That would make the Daytona 24 look like a second class event if the new cars are not there. I don't think IMSA is going to let that happen. Not at their home.

wdave0 · 12 Dec 2015, 20:40 (Ref:3597353)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

That would make the Daytona 24 look like a second class event if the new cars are not there. I don't think IMSA is going to let that happen. Not at their home.

DPs home?

Rcz · 12 Dec 2015, 20:53 (Ref:3597355)

Since the DPis are supposed to be faster, I don't care if the old DPs are grandfathered in, as long as the new cars aren't made slower the the older ones can compete

BullMan · 12 Dec 2015, 22:48 (Ref:3597376)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

DPs home?

IMSA's home. It's the biggest race of the year to them.

Rcz · 13 Dec 2015, 00:54 (Ref:3597401)

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/12448...ms-series-exit

Nissan has left the Conti series, will now focus on the PWC and smaller grassroots programs.

Guess this means we won't see them in the main series anytime soon as well :\

wdave0 · 13 Dec 2015, 15:04 (Ref:3597503)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

IMSA's home. It's the biggest race of the year to them.

Yes, I know, but it is also the DAYTONA prototype's home. Remember we are dealing with GA/NASCAR thinking here. In their minds it could well be a fitting glorious goodbye to their magnificent creation!

Jaguar4 · 14 Dec 2015, 17:31 (Ref:3597731)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

Yes, I know, but it is also the DAYTONA prototype's home. Remember we are dealing with GA/NASCAR thinking here. In their minds it could well be a fitting glorious goodbye to their magnificent creation!

The same thinking that allowed the Porsche 911 RSR to win overall right? If your so called GA/NASCAR thinking was remotely the same as you're suggesting that never would have happened.

ATLFalconsFAN · 14 Dec 2015, 17:48 (Ref:3597739)

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Originally Posted by Jaguar4

The same thinking that allowed the Porsche 911 RSR to win overall right? If your so called GA/NASCAR thinking was remotely the same as you're suggesting that never would have happened.

You're completely right on this. They did allow the 911 RSR to win by insisting on having such garbage Continental tires on the prototypes!

**joeb** · 14 Dec 2015, 18:21 (Ref:3597748)

Mazda has retained its 4 drivers from last year, but renumbered their 07 car to 55 in homage to their le mans winning car. No word if the livery will accompany that homage...

Deleted · 14 Dec 2015, 18:24 (Ref:3597749)

Maybe that's hint towards LM entry.

Or just thing for 25 yr anniversary.

wdave0 · 14 Dec 2015, 22:30 (Ref:3597815)

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Originally Posted by ATLFalconsFAN

You're completely right on this. They did allow the 911 RSR to win by insisting on having such garbage Continental tires on the prototypes!

Everyone makes a mistake now and then, but ... it wasn't DAYTONA!

Coach Ep · 15 Dec 2015, 16:59 (Ref:3597968)

Scuderia Corse double class effort confirmed, NAEC for GTLM. One would also expect a LM24 campaign (with or without an IMSA 'invite at large'?)

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/sc...-gtd-programs/

Dyson Mazda · 15 Dec 2015, 19:26 (Ref:3597990)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Maybe that's hint towards LM entry.

Or just thing for 25 yr anniversary.

The engine that Mazda is running this year is not P2 ACO legal

Deleted · 15 Dec 2015, 20:52 (Ref:3598008)

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Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

The engine that Mazda is running this year is not P2 ACO legal

'Waivers may be granted by the Endurance Committee'...

MoMedic9019 · 16 Dec 2015, 22:09 (Ref:3598230)

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Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

The engine that Mazda is running this year is not P2 ACO legal

Exceptions will be made for IMSA cars.

Coach Ep · 17 Dec 2015, 03:00 (Ref:3598279)

Not a chance. Not this year (2016) at least.

TF110 · 17 Dec 2015, 03:29 (Ref:3598283)

Sage Karam to race alongside Pruett in the Lexus. Debut expected in May (possibly Laguna Seca) according to motorsport.com

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