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Old 7 Nov 2023, 09:27 (Ref:4184915)   #951
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They were faster at Bahrain last year with inferior BOP so no, that's not the limit for this car. Unless upgrades they did before 2023 have an opposite effect to expected one
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Old 7 Nov 2023, 09:35 (Ref:4184920)   #952
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Hopefully Peugeot will learn the lessons of this year and come back stronger next year. They need to improve
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Old 23 Dec 2023, 17:37 (Ref:4189721)   #953
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Old 23 Dec 2023, 20:21 (Ref:4189732)   #954
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The wing is not a small one. Not at all Ferrari style.
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Old 23 Dec 2023, 23:54 (Ref:4189743)   #955
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Looks like double endplates. Ala TS020 in high downforce trim.
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Old 1 Jan 2024, 18:30 (Ref:4190530)   #956
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Old 1 Jan 2024, 20:59 (Ref:4190545)   #957
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Hopefully it can look more effective than last year’s car. Certainly it looks better from those testing photos. We’ll see when they release the official photos
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Old 2 Jan 2024, 09:22 (Ref:4190579)   #958
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Hopefully it can look more effective than last year’s car. Certainly it looks better from those testing photos. We’ll see when they release the official photos
It wasn't looks last year's car was short of - it's a fantastic looking car. At LM, I thought it was probably the best looking car of them all. But performance, that's a different matter....
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Old 2 Jan 2024, 14:56 (Ref:4190602)   #959
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Just proves that Motorsports is no beauty contest. Form follows function... it's that simple.
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Old 2 Jan 2024, 20:08 (Ref:4190621)   #960
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It wasn't looks last year's car was short of - it's a fantastic looking car. At LM, I thought it was probably the best looking car of them all. But performance, that's a different matter....
In fairness, it also performed well at Le Mans, but only at Le Mans.
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Old 2 Jan 2024, 21:00 (Ref:4190626)   #961
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but only at Le Mans
Monza? And Bahrain was strange, they were slower than in 2022, despite upgrades on the car.
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Old 2 Jan 2024, 22:06 (Ref:4190631)   #962
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it only really went very well at LM in the wet where it was the fastest car at times, no doubt due to relying less on aero and more on ground effect
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Old 2 Jan 2024, 23:56 (Ref:4190639)   #963
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And having a lower front wheel drive deployment speed.
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Not sure how it generates the downforce is a factor.
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Old 3 Jan 2024, 11:41 (Ref:4190658)   #964
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I think people are way too harsh about the 9X8’s performance last year. It led Le Mans on merit, and not just in the wet. It was very competitive at Monza too.

It clearly could do with a much wider performance window but if we’re talking about a weakness, they’ve got to make it more reliable.
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Old 5 Jan 2024, 08:56 (Ref:4190839)   #965
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Agreed. It always happens when someone tries something different though.

Motorsport fans: "booo everything looks the same"
Also motorsport fans: "booo your car is stupid and different and I hate it"
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Old 5 Jan 2024, 12:32 (Ref:4190862)   #966
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I think they should be praised for the ingenuity, but there were too problems with it to be a consistent challenger. If they can build on their potential, they will be a much better force
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Agreed. It always happens when someone tries something different though.

Motorsport fans: "booo everything looks the same"
Also motorsport fans: "booo your car is stupid and different and I hate it"
It's not black/white. I applaud for trying something different but at the same time we have to agree it didn't really work.
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Old 6 Jan 2024, 11:20 (Ref:4190922)   #968
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I think to be honest the people who do work them need to hang their heads in shame, they had endless gearbox issues, this might be the people who make the box but it also might be a "mating issue with the box, engine and electronics.

but for it to go on as long as it did, with the budget available was a joke
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You can look at f1 teams and their struggles to get the ground effects cars to work. Their budgets are much higher than Peugeot. Should go to show you that it's not so easy to get a certain concept right.
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But then again, ground effects has been around since the 60's, when Jim Hall was developing both passive and active versions of his Chaparall racers. It was after seeing them in action that inspired Colin Chapman to his designs that would make a winner in the 70's. Not to mention Alfa's short lived "fan" car.

Peugeot was looking to make a car that was based on passive ground effects and not need a rear wing for stability. Unfortunately, it was changing conditions that would prove to make the car unstable.
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. Not to mention Alfa's short lived "fan" car.
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Actually a Brabham BT46B (powered by Alfa) [/pedant]
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A few snippets from Di Resta
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and also a suggestion that the new car might not debut in the first race this year!
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and also a suggestion that the new car might not debut in the first race this year!
I'm still holding out hope that they do something other than what we expect with the aero, like maybe they do add a wing, but not where you expect.
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Confirmed that the updated 9x8 won't race in the opening round. Hopeful they can homologate the new car for Imola in April.
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