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Old 30 May 2019, 08:52 (Ref:3906911)   #451
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Kessel livery is awesome. It's a very modern colour choice and one that's very different to the usual standards that get rolled out - red/white/blue, gulf etc.
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They can't do a Gulf car because they are sponsored by Castrol.

The pale blue and red car is a compromise between the two, by the look of it.
The light blue car is a representation of the second placed car from '66

Ha - I was forgetting about the Castrol sponsor

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Project 1 reveals special livery. Yep, another one.

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Some stats. I haven't done a super thorough check on these but they should be about right.

Driver gradings
Platinum: 73 (39%)
Gold: 48 (26%)
Silver: 38 (20%)
Bronze: 27 (15%)

That gives a 65/35 split between 'Pro' and 'Am'.

There are 4 all Platinum crews in LMP1 and 10 in GTE Pro.
The lowest graded driver line up is #50 Larbre Competition, with one Silver and two Bronze drivers.

Le Mans rookies: 34

Total previous race starts across the whole field: 808
Average race starts per crew: 13.0
Average race starts per driver: 4.4

Most experienced crews
#64 Corvette Racing 41 starts
#63 Corvette Racing 40 starts
#99 Proton Competition 40 starts

Least experienced crews
#78 Proton Competition 0 starts
#43 RLR MSport 1 start
#94 Porsche GT Team 1 start
#57 Car Guy Racing 1 start
#83 Kessel Racing 1 start

Nations represented:
France 34
UK 29
Italy 16
USA 15
Germany 8
Denmark 8
Netherlands 8
etc

Previous overall winners 11
Alonso, Bamber, Buemi, Dumas, Duval, Fassler, Jani, Lotterer, Nakajima, Rockenfeller, Tandy

Previous class winners (excluding overall) 37 (not sure that is totally accurate...)
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Some stats. I haven't done a super thorough check on these but they should be about right.

Driver gradings
Platinum: 73 (39%)
Gold: 48 (26%)
Silver: 38 (20%)
Bronze: 27 (15%)

That gives a 65/35 split between 'Pro' and 'Am'.

There are 4 all Platinum crews in LMP1 and 10 in GTE Pro.
The lowest graded driver line up is #50 Larbre Competition, with one Silver and two Bronze drivers.

Le Mans rookies: 34

Total previous race starts across the whole field: 808
Average race starts per crew: 13.0
Average race starts per driver: 4.4

Most experienced crews
#64 Corvette Racing 41 starts
#63 Corvette Racing 40 starts
#99 Proton Competition 40 starts

Least experienced crews
#78 Proton Competition 0 starts
#43 RLR MSport 1 start
#94 Porsche GT Team 1 start
#57 Car Guy Racing 1 start
#83 Kessel Racing 1 start

Nations represented:
France 34
UK 29
Italy 16
USA 15
Germany 8
Denmark 8
Netherlands 8
etc

Previous overall winners 11
Alonso, Bamber, Buemi, Dumas, Duval, Fassler, Jani, Lotterer, Nakajima, Rockenfeller, Tandy

Previous class winners (excluding overall) 37 (not sure that is totally accurate...)



Nice work Mike. I always find these stats fascinating. Where do all these rookies come from every year!
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Old 3 Jun 2019, 21:22 (Ref:3907792)   #462
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There are an awful lot of them every time.
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They can't do a Gulf car because they are sponsored by Castrol.

The pale blue and red car is a compromise between the two, by the look of it.
I thought it was the Wyer car too until I realised Ford was celebrating it's own factory team victories ('66 & '67; "Shelby" and "Holman and Moody" under contract with Ford); not the independent Wyer's '68 & 69 wins with good ol' "1075" (iirc, the only multi - LM24 winner by the exact same chassis).
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I had it in my head that the Porsche chassis that won in 1985 had won before - but I could well be wrong.....
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indeed, 1984 and 1985: Joest Porsche 956-117
And Joest did that again in 1996 - 1997 with the TWR-Porsche (ex-Jaguar 691 aka TWR WSC95-01)

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Some stats. I haven't done a super thorough check on these but they should be about right.

Driver gradings
Platinum: 73 (39%)
Gold: 48 (26%)
Silver: 38 (20%)
Bronze: 27 (15%)

That gives a 65/35 split between 'Pro' and 'Am'.

There are 4 all Platinum crews in LMP1 and 10 in GTE Pro.
The lowest graded driver line up is #50 Larbre Competition, with one Silver and two Bronze drivers.

Le Mans rookies: 34

Total previous race starts across the whole field: 808
Average race starts per crew: 13.0
Average race starts per driver: 4.4

Most experienced crews
#64 Corvette Racing 41 starts
#63 Corvette Racing 40 starts
#99 Proton Competition 40 starts

Least experienced crews
#78 Proton Competition 0 starts
#43 RLR MSport 1 start
#94 Porsche GT Team 1 start
#57 Car Guy Racing 1 start
#83 Kessel Racing 1 start

Nations represented:
France 34
UK 29
Italy 16
USA 15
Germany 8
Denmark 8
Netherlands 8
etc

Previous overall winners 11
Alonso, Bamber, Buemi, Dumas, Duval, Fassler, Jani, Lotterer, Nakajima, Rockenfeller, Tandy

Previous class winners (excluding overall) 37 (not sure that is totally accurate...)
Love me some stats! Made me realise a few errors in mine.

Maybe you can help me. I've got down 33 rookies for this year. Who am I missing?

Vandoorne, Andersen, Fjordbach, Binder, Falb, Van Uitert, De Vries, Jamin, Cullen, Smiechowski, King, Farano, Maini, Enqvist, Tereschenko, J.Krohn, Gounon, Jaminet, Olsen, Kimura, Cozzolino, Schiavoni, Pianezzola, Prette, Prette, Abril, Gostner, Gatting, Lu, Baptista, Fraga, Preining, Hoshino

I also realised that in the final list the ACO have reverted Andlauer back to his original silver (he's gold in 2019) - but they've not done the same for Preining. So JMW have bronze/gold/gold officially. Not sure what to make of that really - it's just inconsistent.

I keep getting a count of 28 bronze drivers on the entry too.
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indeed, 1984 and 1985: Joest Porsche 956-117
And Joest did that again in 1996 - 1997 with the TWR-Porsche (ex-Jaguar 691 aka TWR WSC95-01)
Thank you gents (I assume...), I stand corrected appreciatively.
I'm consoled that my ignorance of those two are not my failing memory....phew!!!....but, rather, just my lack of knowledge in the first place. 'Never heard or noticed (as I should have...'so ashamed )

gert - Do you visit classicScarS (where I just confirmed)? Great site...
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Told you I wasn't thorough.

I had Sirotkin as a rookie but he was in the 2017 race.
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I also realised that in the final list the ACO have reverted Andlauer back to his original silver (he's gold in 2019) - but they've not done the same for Preining. So JMW have bronze/gold/gold officially. Not sure what to make of that really - it's just inconsistent.

I keep getting a count of 28 bronze drivers on the entry too.
I had Sergio Pianezzola in the #60 as a Silver but he is a Bronze.

The FIA list published yesterday has both Andlauer and Preining as Gold.

As an aside, if you give P/G/S/B values of 1/2/3/4, then the average grading of a P/S/B crew is the same as a G/G/B crew, at 2.7. Although I would take Campbell/Andlauer/Ried over, say, Beretta/Cheever/Isihikawa any day of week. And Bleekemolen has been downgraded to Gold, but is he any less effective than old stagers like Fisi, Bergmeister, Vilander, Lamy or Long?

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I also realised that in the final list the ACO have reverted Andlauer back to his original silver (he's gold in 2019) - but they've not done the same for Preining. So JMW have bronze/gold/gold officially. Not sure what to make of that really - it's just inconsistent.
Isn't that because the Le Mans 24 hours is part of the LM 2018-19 season, and thus run to the ranking of 2018?

Let's suppose a driver got upgraded for 2019, then it could make a certain driver combination (featuring one of the better ams or young pro's) prohibited for the final 2 races of the 'season'.
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No, most of the times I check https://www.racingsportscars.com/
I am not sure about Classicscars, but I know there are a number of sites who have taken their information from Martin Krejci's original site (now hosted here: http://wsrp.cz/ ) and claim the information is theirs.

I didn't need to check for the 2 Joest Porsches though, I just knew that
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Isn't that because the Le Mans 24 hours is part of the LM 2018-19 season, and thus run to the ranking of 2018?

Let's suppose a driver got upgraded for 2019, then it could make a certain driver combination (featuring one of the better ams or young pro's) prohibited for the final 2 races of the 'season'.
Yeah gert this is the reason. We realised this a few weeks ago. It's just when it comes to producing those figures for the driver rankings whether to classify these drivers as their previous ranking or their current one - as per the ACO list.

Really only a problem stat geeks will care about.
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