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Old 19 May 2003, 19:30 (Ref:603852)   #16
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have a look at www.classicf3.co.uk they have a cars for sale section and contact details for the people who can give you information about the cars, which can be very cheap to run.
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Old 19 May 2003, 21:58 (Ref:604001)   #17
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Ho ho ho - lol - people have funny ideas. If you can get a rated 90s FF1600 for under four grand it has no wheels, engine or bodywork!

cheapest RF90 would be five grand and expect to spend another two prepping it.

An 80s car would be cheaper but only buy an Rf86, RF88 or RF89. 83 was a joke, 84 a git to set up, 85 all had flexing chassis and most have extras welded into the spaceframe, 87 was too long.

Monoposto 1600 is rubbish as they all cheat ridiculously with trick cams - listen to them on the overun. This new BARC series is much better value or one of the BRSCC regional series treats you much better.

F3 - I ran in ARP a few years ago and blew my Spiess VW up. New cost: eighteen (18) grand. moral of story: forget it!
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Old 20 May 2003, 08:26 (Ref:604348)   #18
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You might not like the look of it, but cast your eye over some Formula Vee cars, I believe they are aboout as low cost as single seaters get. The car that won the championship in 2002 is advertised for 5,750 but cars can be had for less than 3000 that are adequate.

www.750mc.co.uk
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Old 20 May 2003, 08:39 (Ref:604359)   #19
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very tru
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Old 20 May 2003, 21:17 (Ref:605306)   #20
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Thanks for the info all of you! I think I'll follow JRs info and perhaps go for a FR at a reasonable price and see how I get on. I've just got to finish the TVR s2 (spray job) and then flog it.

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Old 20 May 2003, 21:20 (Ref:605316)   #21
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you could try contacting a few racing schools to see if they have any old cars. May not be in the best condition but should be mechanicaly sound.
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Old 20 May 2003, 23:03 (Ref:605412)   #22
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Mono cheating????????
the 1600 class allow the MONO cam.
I run an F3 in mono at a reasonable cost. Just took out the very expensive F3 Brabham engine and dropped in a road going VW gti unit. Standard parts, pump fuel etc and produce more bhp than an 8v ARP f3 engine!!!!!
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Old 21 May 2003, 15:06 (Ref:605973)   #23
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Gadgit,

I bought a VD00 FF Zetec and put 2 litre power in the back. The car is very lively and great fun to drive, and in the right hands very quick. I mainly bought the car to use for track-day fun, at 1/2 the price of a quick Caterfield and 1/3 that of a Radical. Spares are easily to get from VDiemen and some cheaper aftermarket parts are available. The engine is easy to look after, not too stressed, just change the oil every 180 miles, used tyres can be had from the FF pro-teams for 60 a set, brake pads are 180 for the whole car etc. It is very economical to run (if you don't hit anything and if you do it's easy to repair.)

Have a look at www.circuitdriver.com under Road Test 'Single Minded' feature.

I run the car at all non-Octagon track track-days, plus all the European circuits Spa, Dijon, Magny Cours www.bookatrack.com. And can run at test day, plus a few club level races. The only thing I would change is the engine (back to a FF1800 Zetec) to keep the car legal for a wider number of races.

IMHO - Don't go for a pre-99 FF zetec, the design significantly improved in 99. And don't go for wings as a first car, you'll just knock them off and constantly adjust them. Avoid anything with more then 100bhp / litre these engines need rebuilds every 600 miles. Avoid cardon-fiber tubs.
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Old 21 May 2003, 15:56 (Ref:606029)   #24
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My vote is with Jedi- I had two 500s in the early 90s and there were huge fun and are even more user friendly these days with 4-stroke engines.
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