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Old 9 Jun 2005, 20:31 (Ref:1324262)   #16
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Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I really don't think that racing in ChampCar in its current state would raise his stock in F1 - it's done nothing for Bourdais.

Anthony is under contract to BAR Honda, so to imagine they would allow him to go and race Ford powered cars and risk being injured doing so is somewhat fanciful, I believe.
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Old 9 Jun 2005, 20:36 (Ref:1324267)   #17
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I think it's a calculated gamble to take if you don't currently have a drive and therefore have little to lose.

Ant already has a contract and possibly more opportunties with BAR to come. To leap into a car alongside Bourdais, with no CART experience would be a risk, the rewards of which will be few and the downside greater. IMO.

That doesn't mean that AD is not up to the task, but simply that jumping into a new car and series after the season has started, nearly always puts you on the back foot.
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Old 9 Jun 2005, 21:34 (Ref:1324323)   #18
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I think Davidson made the right choice. Presumably Button will attempt to leave BAR and Davidson will get the seat. If he doesn't get Button's seat, then he would have been better off in Champ Car.

Drivers seem to adapt to CC faster than F1, it's more of a driver's series. Being at Newman-Hass would give him a legitimate shot to impress. A question he'd have to ask himself is could he beat Bourdais, particularly without any experience? I don't think he could, even with experience. Bourdais has virtually no weakness, he's fast over one lap, many laps, he's good at saving fuel and tires, quick on restarts, he's very technical, smart, very agressive and is adept at passing. Finally he has managed to make the very talented Junquiera look slow.

The current state of Champ Car is the highest level of driver ability in a long time...
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Old 9 Jun 2005, 22:44 (Ref:1324379)   #19
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I don't know whether or not he made the right choice. There are benefits/disadvantages to staying on in F1 and going to Champ Car. I think it is very clear that he is well capable of becoming a top-line F1 driver, and so it is a sensible decision to stay in F1 because a drive will probably appear for him in 2006. But then again there's loads of good drivers in CART, so if he had gone there and gone well, it may have raised his reputation more as a RACING driver. So i don't know which one would be better! He did Le Mans recently for Ferrari didn't he (not in the prototype class)?
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 04:22 (Ref:1324491)   #20
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I think the Ant has to be doing some sort of juggling act by staying where he is. He is impressing the right people by remaining at BAR, where " he set the fastest time (not on low fuel either!) just 8/100ths of a second off the fastest time set at Monza so far this year by anyone! ". The news of this must have surprised his current team mates.

However, he is not automatically going to get the ride if the Bunsen leaves for Williams (or any other team) because strong rumours suggest that Rubens is looking to escape from being SchM's #2 by going to BAR.

However, going to race in CART will take him away from the F1 scene, and as many working people know, if you go away from your job on long leave or away for a temporary post elsewhere, somebody else can get the jump on you in a promotion.

I think the Ant's best hope is if Sato gets sick again. I wonder if my Melacca hex still works!!
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 04:42 (Ref:1324500)   #21
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Personally I think Ant is making a wrong decision. IMHO, the best ride available is what a driver should strive for, the Champ Series is a great competitive series that would help Ant improve. There is no substitute for racing. Test driving and doing low fuel meaningless qualifying laps is a poor substitute for actual racing.
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 04:55 (Ref:1324502)   #22
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I also think that there sometimes is a need to step down a level, impress the people who need impressing by beating the people at that level and then stepping back up again.

He is clearly showing that he is good in a F1 Car, but this shows nothing of how he goes in a Race.

However, if he steps down, doesn't win, he won't come back...

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Old 10 Jun 2005, 06:21 (Ref:1324514)   #23
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Test driving and doing low fuel meaningless qualifying laps is a poor substitute for actual racing.
What low fuel meaningless qualifying laps are you referring to? Do you have any data to support this or are you just making it up?
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 18:16 (Ref:1324921)   #24
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Some good sensible balanced debate above...I think you've covered all the main reasons.

I'm quite impressed that Newman-Haas thought of him with so many qualified CC drivers available. I can only assume that they needed him to back up Bourdais not beat him, they couldn't have expected that straight away! Especially as the first race was an oval! AD is known for his adaptability, but everyone needs a bit of accliamatisation. It's most likely that they have people who witnessed his outing at Elk Hart Lake in 2002 when he stunned the Green Team by lapping Franchitti's car on an unknown track just 6ths off the then CC championship leader testing there on the same day!?

Yes of course AD misses his racing like crazy...or as he laments "Racing" finished with Formula Ford" But being chucked in the deep end...'is sink or swim stuff' as he found out in those Minardi outings, other than Minardi crew few realise actually what a good job he actually did in that PS002 Asiatech...14th fastest race lap...never drove the car before first practice...never seen the track before, never had even done a racing pit stop before...all disapeared into just "Gravel" in peoples memory!

It's all about being in the right place at the right time!...seems to me he always seems to be in the right place at the wrong time and 3 differant team bosses hasn't helped him really.

So if JB stays or if Nick Fry feels a more experienced driver like Barrichello is a 'safer bet'...Honda will no doubt have to sort him something else out. If not in F1 it would be a heck of a waste of a lot F1 training...I mean whats the point of having a 'Young driver programme' if you don't use them!?
Remember Craig Pollock originally grabbed AD on the night of Autosport 'young Driver of the Year' announcement. (cost him the McLaren test prize!)
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 18:49 (Ref:1324949)   #25
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all disapeared into just "Gravel" in peoples memory!
Only for some Rennen, there were others of us who defended Ant to the hilt in the "talent or hype" that was locked down.
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It's only really the minority who diss Ant's Minardi performances.

As for F1 bosses, well, they probably can't think back further than six months anyhow....
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Old 10 Jun 2005, 22:35 (Ref:1325104)   #27
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