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View Poll Results: Who will beat their team mate in 2018?
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton 29 96.67%
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas 1 3.33%
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel 29 96.67%
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen 1 3.33%
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo 8 26.67%
Red Bull: Max Verstappen 22 73.33%
Force India: Sergio Perez 7 23.33%
Force India: Esteban Ocon 23 76.67%
Williams: Lance Stroll 14 46.67%
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin 16 53.33%
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg 18 60.00%
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr 12 40.00%
Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly 17 56.67%
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley 13 43.33%
Haas: Romain Grosjean 22 73.33%
Haas: Kevin Magnussen 8 26.67%
McLaren: Fernando Alonso 28 93.33%
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne 2 6.67%
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson 7 23.33%
Sauber: Charles Leclerc 23 76.67%
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Old 28 Sep 2018, 07:23 (Ref:3853073)   #226
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Team-mate battle results for the race after round fifteen (Singapore).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 11 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 9 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 6 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 8 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 7 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 8 (DNF's: Australia)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 6 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 8 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 6 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 6 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 5 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 8 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 6 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 8 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 6 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)



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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 10
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 13
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 3

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 13
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 3

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 7

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 6

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 12
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 16
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 13
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 3

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 13
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 6
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 10





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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 12 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 6 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 9 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 8 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 9 (DNF's: Australia)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 6 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 6 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 10 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 6 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 5 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 6 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 6 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)



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Vettel has dropped out of the top ten for the first time this season.






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Vettel has dropped out of the top ten for the first time this season.


Hamilton on top of the rankings on a weekend where his team mate wiped the floor with him, pretty much shows the criteria need some adjustment.
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Hamilton on top of the rankings on a weekend where his team mate wiped the floor with him, pretty much shows the criteria need some adjustment.
And Kimi made up places, despite getting beaten by his team mate. But I'm sure that totally makes sense.
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Hamilton on top of the rankings on a weekend where his team mate wiped the floor with him, pretty much shows the criteria need some adjustment.
Wiped the floor? Hardly. Yes, Bottas could well have won, but let's not overegg a pudding which has seen Hamilton dominate his team mate for most of the season.
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Wiped the floor? Hardly. Yes, Bottas could well have won, but let's not overegg a pudding which has seen Hamilton dominate his team mate for most of the season.
Bottas qualified on pole, pulled across at the start to make sure Hamilton got the tow, slowed Vettel while Hamilton was in the pits enabling Hamilton to get close enough to pass Vettel on tyres fresh out of the tyre warmers, and then yielded the win to Hamilton on team orders.

Bottas, I agree hasn't even been close to Hamilton across the season and I am not a fan of his, however this weekend, Bottas wiped the floor with Hamilton.
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I think there might be a disagreement with what the expression wiped the floor actually means.

I suspect Hamilton had the better race pace. I also think your view on how much Bottas helped Hamilton is exaggerated. It’s more likely hypothesis that Bottas just tried to tried to keep the lead at the start. Just after his stops, where Mercdes favoured his strategy at that point, it is more likely that it was just his pace. Once Hamilton was ahead of Vettel he got stuck behind Bottas and pulled away after he was let through.

Even if your hypothesis is correct. Wiped the floor is an exaggeration. As with qualifying it could really only be described as a being a bit quicker.
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Bearing in mind Hamilton's error on his final run as well.....
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Making a mistake immediately makes you a worse rider who's not worthy of the championship. Just ask Vettel.
Well that explains it then. Hamilton drives his F1 car, while Vettel rides his F1 car. Clearly not worthy of the championship if your going to treat your car as if it's a horse.




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Particularly if it is a Prancing Horse.
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Team-mate battle results for qualifying after round seventeen (Japan).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 11
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 13
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 4

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 14
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 3

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 13
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 17
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 13
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 4

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 14
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 6
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 11






80th pole for Hamilton. Great lap in the slippery conditions. Bottas kept him honest though.

Out of the Ferrari duo, one did pretty good considering the choices made by the team, one turned into jelly once again when water was added.

Red Bull, Max has had a good run of late, while his team-mate just cannot catch a break. Cannot wait for Ricciardo to leave Red Bull personally. His stocks have dropped since he announced he was going to Renault.

At Renault, Hulkenberg in the wall while Sainz managed to set a Q2 time.

Grosjean smashed his team-mate. P5 vs P12. That's 10 Q3 appearances in a row for RG. His on a good run at the moment.

The Force India drivers pretty even. Ocon in front of Perez.

Alonso vs Vandoorne... no contest really. That's 22 in a row for Alonso against Vandoorne.

Hartley and Gasly did very well. Hartley was lied to by his race engineer; it worked, and Hartley ended up in front of Gasly. Nice tactic that one.

Leclerc once again shows why Ericsson is a wasted F1 seat.

Out of the Williams duo, Stroll managed to make it to Q2. Sirotkin still well ahead in the qualifying battle though.



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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 13 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 7 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 10 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 8 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 9 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 6 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 5 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)




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Team-mate battle results for qualifying after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 12
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 14
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 4

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 14
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 4

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 10
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 8

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 14
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 18
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 14
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 4

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 15
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 6
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 12





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Team-mate battle results for the race after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 14 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 7 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 11 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 7 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)




With three rounds left this season, seems like it will be the Williams drivers to have the closest team-mate battle of 2018. With 3 DNF's each, Stroll is ahead by just one win.


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I hear ya! The numbers win in the end though. Just like the numbers say Michael Schumacher is the best F1 driver of all time. But there's a few F1 fans out there who don't believe that to be the case at all.




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Well if we're going on numbers alone, that means Hamilton will soon become the undisputed best driver on the current grid, with Vettel second.

Hamilton will move to a clear 3rd in the all-time list, leaving Vettel as the joint-4th best F1 driver of all time - but I guess he's still overrated?
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Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 14 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 7 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 11 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 7 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)




With three rounds left this season, seems like it will be the Williams drivers to have the closest team-mate battle of 2018. With 3 DNF's each, Stroll is ahead by just one win.


Ferraris score is wrong. There hasn't been a race where they have both retired, yet there scores only add up to 17 instead of 18
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I hear ya! The numbers win in the end though. Just like the numbers say Michael Schumacher is the best F1 driver of all time. But there's a few F1 fans out there who don't believe that to be the case at all.
More than just a few.
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