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Nations Cup didn't send Palmer broke. It got to a point where he realised it wasn't feasible to throw money into Procar anymore but it didn't destroy him financially.
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I can't see too many positives in one company owning the category management rights to potentially five categories, including three of the only four official "Australian Championships", not to mention also running the two major endurance races in Australia...gives them quite the monopoly & extensive power in Australian motorsport, especially if they want certain things to go their way.
CAMS don't seem to mind though, afterall their Formula 4, the fourth of four Australian Championships, resides on the Supercars support bill as well.... |
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your only negative appears to be a monopoly, which is false, as there are many other places for GT3 to run including theire own events. 'However there is a monopoly on crowd attending events. Thats not changing. Being out of that monopoly provides minimal benefit for GT3 in Australia Last edited by peckstar; 23 Aug 2017 at 08:55. |
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However, their correspondence came at a time when Supercars was potentially for sale, and rumours that a buyer had a condition that AGT came with the deal. We were never (to my knowledge) given the back story behind that, nor who was whispering in CAMS ear to limit where GT3/4 could race, and why. With these Supercars /AGT discussions it will be interesting to see what develops, and if some sort of a deal with Supercars goes through, whether CAMS will get their GT3/4 eligibility correspondence out again, or leave it consigned to the stupid mistakes drawer forever. |
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Other negatives include track time, scheduling, costs, access to drivers, brand development. |
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Im somewhat impressed that you know exactaly how track time, costs scheduling and access to drivers will work out even before an agreement takes place, thats amazing, with so much wisdom you shoudl consider getting involved. As for brand development, I would think that would be a positive. much more scope for development Im still waiting for you to answer this question Quote:
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Many categories on the V8SC support bill have also commented on the increased entry fees associated with being on the support bill In regards to what a new owner brings - it brings with a stable management group and provides independence as a category rather than being lost in the V8SC crowd |
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Different negotiation skills Different contacts Different vision Not knocking TQ but maybe the new owner sees it solely as a business and not somewhere for them to race in also. It's not difficult to understand. |
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I was thinking of what is a positive for motor racing, not a single category. And one company, which ultimately has it's own profit making interests at heart rather than motor racing, potentially running five series is not good for Australian motor racing, in my opinion.
You will have to ask the competitors, if the sale goes ahead, what the positives are? As a fan, I can't see many. Quote:
There are only 4 CAMS Australian Championships now. Supercar Championship is awarded the ATCC by CAMS, the Australian GT Championship, Australian Endurance Championship (for GT3 cars) and the Australian Formula 4 Championship |
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Archer would seem to be a willing seller. probably a bit like herding cats though. |
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I think the GT collective have their hands full running their own businesses, GT is Pro-Am because these guys to work, make money, and want to have their fun too.
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The smartest commercial bloke in the AGT building seems to have vacated his seat. Suggests *something* is up...
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Highlands to host Aus GT round for final time
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Aus GT is reading like a soapie lately.
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Highlands 501 to become a round of the NZ Endurance Championship?
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What would stop Steven Richards and his team entering?
All this reads is that it wont be part of the points paying Australian Endurance Championship. |
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edit. ok I see now, info missing from that release LAST HURRAH FOR AUSTRALIAN GTS AT HIGHLANDS will be intetested see what, if anything, this means to Aust GT teams competing. Would think that unless they are getting funded by TQ they might be more interested in going to Sepang and racing in their 12 hour Last edited by peckstar; 4 Sep 2017 at 07:10. |
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Troy Russel from MPC was one of the people at the front of the calendar revolt at the start of the year - so his position is not surprising.
McElrea's comments are disappointing and alot of the concerns and feedback throughout the year is not addressed my a move to Supercars management. Tony Quinn deserves better from where he built this series from. |
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