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Old 28 Aug 2002, 07:01 (Ref:367160)   #1
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CRAIG LOWNDES - Whats Happening ?

Just Reading on Conrod Forums and Rpmlive.tv V8 Pitboard and both mention That Lowndes has contacted Geoff Polities and asked to get out of 00 Motorsport.

WHAT THE ???

Can Anyone confirm this or do you know anything ??
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 10:36 (Ref:367270)   #2
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 11:03 (Ref:367303)   #3
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If you remember Craig signed with Ford to drive for Fred Gibson and all of a sudden he is realy driving for Bob Forbes!
So you can't blame him for wanting something better!

What Ford needs is 1 fully supported team and then a heap of secondary teams and not just a heap of second rate teams.
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 11:06 (Ref:367308)   #4
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If you remember Craig signed with Ford to drive for Fred Gibson and all of a sudden he is realy driving for Bob Forbes!
So you can't blame him for wanting something better!

What Ford needs is 1 fully supported team and then a heap of secondary teams and not just a heap of second rate teams.
Yeah but where is the better Ford team?
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 11:09 (Ref:367311)   #5
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Anywhere than 00 Motorsport???
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 11:11 (Ref:367312)   #6
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Anywhere than 00 Motorsport???
Every other Ford team other than Stone Brothers Pirtek car is doing a **** job. So why move to anothe bad Ford team unless he can be given Ambrose drive
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 12:26 (Ref:367384)   #7
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I agree, at the moment there is no better alternative than 00 Motorsport. The only reason the Pirtek car is near the front is Ambrose, Besnard and Gardner haven't been able to get anywhere near as close as the Ambrose, and neither has any other Ford team.
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 14:34 (Ref:367485)   #8
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But Tool Man I do actually moderate the Conrod forum, and with all due respect some of the rumors that pop up on Conrod are way outta left field. I'd believe this one when I saw it.
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 16:06 (Ref:367546)   #9
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but it does keep us all talking down there
but craig has done stranger things, hasnt he?
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 21:32 (Ref:367782)   #10
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Exactly... he'd never leave HRT, ever!
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 21:42 (Ref:367787)   #11
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But Tool Man I do actually moderate the Conrod forum, and with all due respect some of the rumors that pop up on Conrod are way outta left field. I'd believe this one when I saw it.

I know you "moderate " Conrod PDF, I wasn't having a go at Conrod but just trying to find out wheather anyone here had heard anything.
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Old 28 Aug 2002, 23:00 (Ref:367833)   #12
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Wasn't saying you were Tool Man....
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Old 29 Aug 2002, 01:59 (Ref:367914)   #13
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I know we all throw about theories and such about what we, the motorsports guru's that we all are would do, but this is my 2c worth on the Lowndes/Ford issue.

I have no idea how much money Ford has or has not sunk into 00 Motorsport. But giving Rodney a car is like feeding strawberries to pigs. I have nothing against Rodney, he's probably a nice bloke and not that bad a steerer, but he will never win a Championship. Crompton probably lacks a little in car time more than anything and if nothing else from what I have heard is a pretty dab hand at actually setting a car up and is a damn fine co-driver.

But the big issue is Lowndes. He's definitely got the ability to win championships, no doubt. And at the moment, only really the Stone Brothers have the car with which to do it, although Bradleys Ozemail team and especially Bowe have been picking up some good results of late all things concidered.

But back to Lowndes. For my money, Ford would be better getting Lowndes into the Stone Brothers team with Ambrose, and giving them the amount of money it is giving to 00 Motorsports.

Ford people complain about the money HRT get, but they get it because they give a return for it, Championships! So why not do the same thing based on the Stone Brothers opperation. If money is all that is stopping Ford then they need to put their two top guys in the best team with good funding and lets see them make some inroads to the HRT domination.
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Old 29 Aug 2002, 06:30 (Ref:367986)   #14
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Wow, this is really odd...Lowndes is contracted with Ford for five years so he'll still be in the Blue Oval of course, but I wonder where? Like others have said before me on this thread, Ford needs a true works team in the mould of HRT...00 Motorsport isnt working, DJR isn't working, Ford Tickford Racing isnt working, the list goes on....
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Wow, this is really odd...Lowndes is contracted with Ford for five years so he'll still be in the Blue Oval of course, but I wonder where?
Remember though he was contracted to Tom Walkinshaw for 10 years, and Crennen did say at the start of this year that if Lowdnes did become available he would find a car at TWR for him......

Thats unlikely to happen though. If this Prodrive team ever gets off the ground though, he is a certainty, if not, as i said earlier, there is really nowhere better to go.
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Old 29 Aug 2002, 07:09 (Ref:368005)   #16
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racer69 - no - his contract with TWR was a personal management contract - it wasn't a contract tying him to HRT or anyother TWR managed team - thus is was reasonably easy to get out of.

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I am very sorry to see that Craig is having such a hard time getting into a car that can really reflect his talents.
I hope he finds something suitable soon. I remember the S**t he had to put up with in F3000, you folks in Aus had no idea how much he put up with, Honestly. He was much better than he was able to show. Now, who was his team mate?
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Old 31 Aug 2002, 03:42 (Ref:369612)   #18
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Yes - had heard a number of stories (from Craig as well as othes) about his itme with F3000 - not something I would wish even on Paul Romano...

Hmmmm hang on - maybe Rrusell Ingall
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- not something I would wish even on Paul Romano...

Hmmmm hang on - maybe Rrusell Ingall
What about Skaife

I must stop these anti Skaife posts, but he just makes it so easy for me to dislike him
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He was much better than he was able to show. Now, who was his team mate?
Mr Montoya.

I remember hearing that Lowndes passed him in a race and finished (that was when he actually finished one) ahead of Juan Pablo, and the Colombian chucked a big hissy fit.
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Yep, he certainly did!
Craig was living above a garage, and it was not an all singing and dancing showroom type of place, with nothing but a bike to get around on. No one spoke English, pretty miserable. He had no engineer until he got Alan McCall over towards the end of the year. Not the way to go.
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Yep, he certainly did!
Craig was living above a garage, and it was not an all singing and dancing showroom type of place, with nothing but a bike to get around on. No one spoke English, pretty miserable. He had no engineer until he got Alan McCall over towards the end of the year. Not the way to go.
I had heard stories that he and Natalie didn't even have a stove or fridge in the unit. It wasn't until Crennan went across mid year to see what was going wrong that he saw and organised so furniture and things for them.
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Probably a bit off topic, but today I was fairly blown away with Lowndes's popularity. Work set up a stall at the All Ford Day here in Brisbane, and we had models, hats and clothes from all of the teams. We sold out of 00 hats, sold a **** load of 1/64th, 1/43rds and 1/18ths, plus a few shirts, while not much else got a look in... I'd say he's worth every cent Ford is paying him...
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I have recently heard that Besnard might be out of a job but there trying there hardest to keep him if they can buy another level 1 franchise and run 2 havoline cars and 2 pirtek cars.
So this will be a place of refuge for both Lowndes and Ingall, There the only team to take it right up to HRT and Skaife so why would you decline?

Lets just hope maybe Prancing horse will sell the level 1 that there not using, because thats the only license available as i know of not being used.
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I'd be suprised if PHR has a level 1 franchise.Who did they buy it off of the 13 that started out only Gibsons-Briggs,Longhurst - BJR have actually changed hands havent they.
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