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Old 2 Jul 2008, 11:39 (Ref:2242147)   #16
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I think the dtm or world touring cars is where he will end up.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 11:42 (Ref:2242150)   #17
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Wow, I thought maybe he'd get dropped, but not the whole car #40 team disappearing. Could Ganassi get a driver that will attract a sponsor? not idea who though, Ken Schrader (I'd like that ), Jeff Green, Jeremy Mayfield? Just ditching the team completely won't help the organisation as a whole at all, even though he was the least experienced and worst performing, it's still another team to gather data and make all the cars go better.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 12:07 (Ref:2242169)   #18
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Yea but you can't keep pumping money into something that is giving you no results.

Dario needs to explore other options, I think it is fairly clear that his bid to become a NASCAR driver is not going to work out. Now it will be very difficult for him to return to the IRL, as well. AGR doesn't have a seat for him to come back to (unless they ditch Mutoh, which is unlikely), Ganassi doesn't have one either (unless he begins fielding a third car, again unlikely), and I doubt that Penske would be interested in his services. Aside from them, the only teams with seats available are not teams which he would be interested in driving for.

I think that the most likely outcome is that he will be in the AGR P2 car in ALMS. Andretti has said that Franck Montagny will be partnered with various other drivers throughout the remainder of the season, and when his IRL shoes have schedule conflicts, Dario would be a good sub. Also, Marino Franchitti used to drive the car, so yea, that's what I see happening.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 13:01 (Ref:2242201)   #19
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Dodge is a big part of the problem. Penske was a winning team that, while not truly contending for the championship in the 2000's, had two drivers in the top 10 in points in 2005 and won races in its final year with Ford. In fact from 1993-2005 with Ford Penske never failed to reach the top 10 and won 48 races. With Dodge both Penske cars missed the Chase in 2006, Newman missed it in 2007 while Busch barely made it, and all three will likely miss it in 2008. Unfortunately, Ganassi foolishly re-signed with Dodge this year and is stuck with Dodge. He should have moved to Toyota and become the #2 Toyota team behind JGR. The only viable option Ganassi seems to have left, assuming he doesn't want to sell the team, is to form an alliance with Penske. (Evernham is already allied with the other Dodge teams of Petty and R. Gordon. For Ganassi to hook up with them would basically make the entire Dodge camp vassals of Evernham so that is unlikely) Both teams are struggling and this would be the best way to improve. Look at how well the Roush-Yates partnership has worked out. There is certainly nothing to lose in an alliance with Penske.

As for JPM, he needs to jump ship as soon as he can while his stock is high enough for him to land a quality ride. How can a 2 car team compete with Roush's 5 cars, Hendrick and RCR's 4 cars, and Gibb's 3 (how long before Gibbs expands to 4 cars?)? Unfortunately, it seems JPM is committed to Ganassi for at least another season.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 13:36 (Ref:2242218)   #20
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Penske are possibly switching to Toyota aren't they?

But yes, JPM needs to jump off the sinking ship.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 13:53 (Ref:2242225)   #21
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I think the dtm or world touring cars is where he will end up.
I think Dario i quite well settled in North America now, I suspect he'll go back to ALMS with AGR, if he did that then Acura may have him for their P1 programme.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 18:12 (Ref:2242385)   #22
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All-American? Three letters - JPM. Carpentier too for that matter.

Don't see what xenophobia has to do with it either...JPM has proven that you don't have to be from the USA to make it in NASCAR (relative to the other open-wheelers anyway).
JPM is from Columbia, which is in South America
Carpentier is from Canada, on the continent of North America

I know - a bit literal.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 18:14 (Ref:2242388)   #23
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I think the dtm or world touring cars is where he will end up.
He's done DTM already - over 10 years ago. He won't be back there. WTCC's not his bag either, he'd be in Sportscars first - I don't see him leaving America at all though so that'd be ALMS.
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I think that the most likely outcome is that he will be in the AGR P2 car in ALMS. Andretti has said that Franck Montagny will be partnered with various other drivers throughout the remainder of the season, and when his IRL shoes have schedule conflicts, Dario would be a good sub. Also, Marino Franchitti used to drive the car, so yea, that's what I see happening.
Dario drove it himself last year too - not just his brother.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 18:47 (Ref:2242416)   #25
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Dario drove it himself last year too - not just his brother.
Yes he did. I forgot about that.
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Old 2 Jul 2008, 19:04 (Ref:2242428)   #26
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Or maybe the major sponsor said, "NO MORE" and an alternative sponsor could not be found
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There wasnt a major sponser, i think Chip takes the target money and spreads it through out the two series (irl and nascar) and if they pick up one of sponsers that goes in the same pot. Reading the Sabates interview it all points to Chips basic mis understanding of NASCAR
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Or maybe the major sponsor said, "NO MORE" and an alternative sponsor could not be found
What main sponsor? Guitar Hero: Aerosmith Edition?
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Presumably he is going to give NASCAR a pass now, although, I guess, it is possible he may try and grind something out - don't think he would exactly have many options even if he had the desire.

ALMS seems like the obvious option to my mind, which would be a good thing. It needs everything it can get. Road-racing is an endangered breed in this part of the world, so I would ultimately be happier with him in ALMS.

Dario's rough run has been sad to witness, but, as others have said, it was not exactly a surprise. The NASCAR world is a heck of a tough one to crack: I often think what people seem to forget is the most of the competitors have been entrenched in such systems all their lives, working up through the ladders, so it is not like one can expect anything other than a struggle in most cases. JPM has done remarkably well, given the circumstances, but he's more of an exception than a rule.

Ah, well, who is next up for a failed assault on NASCAR?
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Danica with a bit of luck! I can't think of anyone more deserving of a reality check.
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