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Old 5 May 2017, 19:20 (Ref:3731324)   #201
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Not too "shocking" to think that it will be that way, if he makes it to the final laps.



Anyone willing to throw out some early leans on how he'll do?

My early lean:
He'll qualify in the high teens / low 20s.
Then he'll get caught up in someone else's mistake or have an issue in the first half. DNF 27. How's that for optimism?

I honestly hope he wins from the pole.
That sounds like a pretty sound prediction. I might add a pit mishap into the mix as well.

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He's certainly preparing for it properly, meaning he hasn't got that attitude that a two time champion will just waltz in and win. I think he'll do very well. Top 10 anyone?
Could a rookie win two years in a row???
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Old 5 May 2017, 19:21 (Ref:3731326)   #202
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Well, the team he's driving for has had the most reliability issues so far of any team this season (sound familiar?). Knowing is luck, I could see him having a problem like Marco at Barber and not be able to take the start. Or be involved in an accident of someone else's fault in the first 10 laps or so.

I hope he does well, though. I'm excited about it. Really hope he enjoys his time over here and tries a few seasons full time of Indycar and also does the IMSA WSC eventually as well. Seeing guys enjoying themselves more after leaving F1 like Montoya did is fun to see.
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Old 6 May 2017, 13:08 (Ref:3731491)   #203
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Although Alonso's quest for the 500 is on track, it doesn't look like an attempt at Le Mans next year will be forthcoming.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/129345
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Old 6 May 2017, 16:26 (Ref:3731592)   #204
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Phew! We won't have to move this to the Sportscar forum.
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Old 6 May 2017, 16:55 (Ref:3731608)   #205
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just like Nige did a couple of decades ago.
Don't try to sugar coat it. It was nearly a quarter of a century ago.

Where does the time go....'seems like yesterday.
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Old 6 May 2017, 17:10 (Ref:3731624)   #206
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For me it meant I didn't just read Indycar race reports in Autosport I could watch the races on telly. Eventually live too.
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Old 6 May 2017, 23:41 (Ref:3731787)   #207
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Phew! We won't have to move this to the Sportscar forum.
Don't tell Alonso about the Daytona 500, Baja, Rally.
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Old 6 May 2017, 23:51 (Ref:3731791)   #208
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Don't tell Alonso about the Daytona 500, Baja, Rally.
Hmmmmmm....(tapping temple with finger)

Is that to say you have something against Jimmy, Jackie, Mario, AJ, Juan, Al (Holbert or Unsers), Dan, Denny, Graham, Sam, Danny, Eddie, Parnelli etc., etc. etc. that participated in numerous facets of racing??? And we shouldn't discuss them?

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Don't tell Alonso about the Daytona 500, Baja, Rally.
Maybe he switches teams to Haas and they put him in some NASCAR races.....
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Maybe he switches teams to Haas and they put him in some NASCAR races.....
Mclaren furnish ECU's for NASCAR IIRC. He can have his pick of teams. And Young Earnhardt is retiring so a plumb spot at Hendrick's will soon be becoming availabull.
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That is no fun. Let Fernando Alonso LIVE! GOD and JESUS Order.
Stop Bullying Alonso. And we know you tried to want to explode his car at Indy 500.
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Don't tell Alonso about the Daytona 500, Baja, Rally.
And the SuperCheap Auto Bathurst 1000!

Yet he will be too busy winning at Indy to worry about any of those..
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Stop Bullying Alonso. And we know you tried to want to explode his car at Indy 500.
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Old 7 May 2017, 19:28 (Ref:3732023)   #214
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So no room for Fred at LM in 2018. Ah well, there's always 2019
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Not even aboard the Penske-Honda LMP program?
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Find that hard to believe
There was this back in February about a Penske - Honda IMSA DPi next year.

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He'd have to sign up with Porsche or Toyota. They may oblige him. It's not impossible. I don't see Penske winning overall at LeMans though.
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Find that hard to believe
A penske Honda dpi won't be eligible to run at le mans.
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A penske Honda dpi won't be eligible to run at le mans.
And even if so; one knows not if Penske would get an invite to the show. Quite the assumption. Has he ever been invited? If so, he didn't accept, as I know he's never been entered.
I thought he would have accepted an invite in '71 with the 512. Alas, it didn't happen. Of course, I don't know if Sunoco sold products overseas and Roger doesn't use his own money to race....
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And even if so; one knows not if Penske would get an invite to the show. Quite the assumption. Has he ever been invited? If so, he didn't accept, as I know he's never been entered.
I thought he would have accepted an invite in '71 with the 512. Alas, it didn't happen. Of course, I don't know if Sunoco sold products overseas and Roger doesn't use his own money to race....
I thought Penske entered Le Mans in '71?
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I thought Penske entered Le Mans in '71?
I don't see Penske listed here (1971 LM entry), but it shows several North American Racing Ferrari 512s:
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I assume one or more of those were run by Roger based on this:
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His two trips to LM as a driver in 62 & 63 were with Briggs Cunningham and NART.

So looks to me like "Penske Racing" has never raced at LM.
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I don't see Penske listed here (1971 LM entry), but it shows several North American Racing Ferrari 512s:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...971-06-13.html

I assume one or more of those were run by Roger based on this:
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His two trips to LM as a driver in 62 & 63 were with Briggs Cunningham and NART.

So looks to me like "Penske Racing" has never raced at LM.
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41 DNF 11 Roger Penske / Kirk F. White, USA
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So looks to me like "Penske Racing" has never raced at LM.
No looks about it....he didn't. I've lived it.

" and ran a Ferrari 512M in 1971,"

But not Penske Racing at Le Mans.

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