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Old 27 May 2018, 21:42 (Ref:3825098)   #196
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Of course it does, as it affects the car's mechanical grip and traction.
So what are you saying? If the track was less green passing would have been a lot more plentyful? The new aerokit had almost no impact on the racing whatsoever?
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Old 27 May 2018, 21:44 (Ref:3825099)   #197
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...yes. That's not even a question.

That's like trying to downplay the effect the moon has on tides.
Then how much effect does the new aerokit really have then? Would it have been a slingshot fest if the temp was lower and the track was less green?
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Old 27 May 2018, 22:12 (Ref:3825106)   #198
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So what are you saying? If the track was less green passing would have been a lot more plentyful? The new aerokit had almost no impact on the racing whatsoever?
It's a lot harder to control the car, let alone overtake, if you've got the car sliding around because of a lack of mechanical grip.
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Old 27 May 2018, 23:28 (Ref:3825111)   #199
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I honestly enjoyed this race greatly today. Yeah, not as much passing as years past, but there was plenty of racing and stories to keep the intrigue for me.

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Old 27 May 2018, 23:55 (Ref:3825119)   #200
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Damn. This was by far the most boring Indy 500 in the DW12 era.

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Old 28 May 2018, 01:02 (Ref:3825124)   #201
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Result

It wasn't a classic but all in all it wasn't a bad race either and there was a popular winner. Chevy had the edge over Honda but Honda managed to get five cars in the top nine, including a podium. Former 500 winners Alexander Rossi and Ryan Hunter-Reay, sort of made up for Andretti Autosport's dismal qualifying by finishing a creditable 4th and 5th respectively. Got to feel a little sorry for Danica going out like that. A finish would have been nice, rather than the wall at Turn 2 but that's Indy.

1 Will Power, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 2h59m42.6365s
2 Ed Carpenter, Ed Carpenter Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 3.1589s
3 Scott Dixon, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Honda. 200. 4.5928s
4 Alexander Rossi, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 200. 5.2237s
5 Ryan Hunter-Reay, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 200. 6.7187s
6 Simon Pagenaud, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 7.2357s
7 Carlos Munoz, ndretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 200. 7.8377s
8 Josef Newgarden, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 8.6917s
9 Robert Wickens, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. 200. 9.3112s
10 Graham Rahal, Rahal Letterman Lanigan. Dallara/Honda. 200. 11.3368s
11 J.R. Hildebrand, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 12.7354s
12 Marco Andretti, Andretti Herta. Dallara/Honda. 200. 14.0745s
13 Matheus Leist, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 14.7798s
14 Gabby Chaves, Harding Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 15.1173s
15 Stefan Wilson, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 200. 33.6747s
16 Jack Harvey, Michael Shank Racing. Dallara/Honda. 200. 34.7970s
17 Oriol Servia, Scuderia Corsa. Dallara/Honda. 200. 38.2325s
18 Charlie Kimball, Carlin. Dallara/Chevrolet. 200. 41.5146s
19 Zachary Claman, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 199. 1 Lap
20 Spencer Pigot, Ed Carpenter Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 199. 1 Lap
21 Conor Daly, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 199. 1 Lap
22 Max Chilton, Carlin. Dallara/Chevrolet. 198. 2 Laps
23 Zach Veach, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 198. 2 Laps
24 Jay Howard, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. 193. 7 Laps
25 Tony Kanaan, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Chevrolet. 187. Contact
26 Sage Karam, Dreyer & Reinbold Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 154. Contact
27 Helio Castroneves, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 145. Contact
28 Sebastien Bourdais, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 137. Contact
29 Kyle Kaiser, Juncos Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 110. Mechanical
30 Danica Patrick, Ed Carpenter Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 67. Contact
31 Ed Jones, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Honda. 57. Contact
32 Takuma Sato, Rahal Letterman Lanigan. Dallara/Honda. 46. Contact with Davison
33 James Davison, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Chevrolet. 45. Contact with Sato
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Old 28 May 2018, 10:29 (Ref:3825179)   #202
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Seems another exciting Indy then and a well deserved winner. This engine competition is one of the best things about Indy. Keeping Rossi has been good and Hunter-Reay is still as great as ever. Shame Danica couldn't go out on a high. But it was a tough race.

Power deserved that win. Carpernter and Dixon, good to see them up there. Plenty of talented drivers in the field from all over the world. Chilton looks a bit down in this series. Some regulars down too. Bourdais still can't resist doing this series. Some drivers did nothing. I wonder if there were any surprise performances in this race? Sato shame he went out early, he's shown he belongs in any series, but sometimes it just isn't going to be your day.
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Old 28 May 2018, 11:00 (Ref:3825188)   #203
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Thanks for this thread guys, specially to BJS. Watching the comments rolling up yesterday was almost as good as being there and probably better than watching the advert filled tv coverage! Your discussion points are (in the main) well reasoned. Thank you.
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Old 28 May 2018, 13:06 (Ref:3825213)   #204
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Well this is a great thread to do and everyone seems to enjoy it. If you canít watch the race this is a good alternative, although those with BT could have
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Old 28 May 2018, 13:21 (Ref:3825220)   #205
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What is the proper beer to lap ratio today? I just opened #2 and am still before noon.
I'm sorry I missed this pertinent question. JP was at my house and we were three beers in each at the green flag. Unsure of ratios but hope you caught up properly by the milk drinking....
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I think everyone who saw it enjoyed it. I guess a few beers watching it enhances the experience. Milk to the winners
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Interesting comments from some of the drivers regarding the UAK post the 500.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/136362
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Interesting comments from some of the drivers regarding the UAK post the 500.

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/136362


I think it does alright, especially as the racing seems to be closer, hopefully the drivers views will be listened to though
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Then how much effect does the new aerokit really have then? Would it have been a slingshot fest if the temp was lower and the track was less green?
Is a slingshot fest what you wanted? That is for NASCAR imo. Artificial "he's got the draft, it will be an easy pass" racing is blah. Just creates randomized finishes. Hard to feel bad about the guy that was best all month winning.

The race wasn't the best, but a lot of that I'm blaming on The Worst Broadcasting Group. The most boring, bland, lame broadcasting in racing.
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