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Old 7 May 2019, 13:25 (Ref:3902470)   #16
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I confess I don't think I could lug that around Le Mans all day and night Gordon, but what does something like that set you back?
The gimbal set up in the picture less the camcorder cost me about £700 as it is a top of the range one, however you can get cheaper ones that will do the same job.
The camcorders that I use can be bought between £3 -£500 but you have to make sure that you buy the right one and not a grey import that doesn't support PAL @ 25FPS for the yank market.
The camcorder is a lot lighter than a Digi SLR and will slip into a jacket pocket and that is a bonus
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Old 7 May 2019, 21:28 (Ref:3902515)   #17
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Personally for me, i can't use any gimble/tripod when taking videos, yes they give you a stable platform but i find them restrictive and its very easy to tell which trackside videos are taken on them as the panning as a very linear motion which can seam un-natural.
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Old 8 May 2019, 09:43 (Ref:3902585)   #18
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I confess I do tend to avoid tripods for this reason. I like the freedom that handholding gives you. Aside from the fact that I'm not setting out to produce something that looks professional. I'm an amateur taking amateur video largely for my own entertainment and I have reasonably steady hands!
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Personally for me, i can't use any gimble/tripod when taking videos, yes they give you a stable platform but i find them restrictive and its very easy to tell which trackside videos are taken on them as the panning as a very linear motion which can seam un-natural.
I would agree with that at motorsport events, also I only use the eyepiece viewer as I find that it makes the video more stable rather than using the flip out screen especially on full telephoto for action shots, it saves lots of battery life as well.
I will use a gimbal or tripod set up on certain types of films that I make if I find that the OIS built into the camera won't stabilize it enough for what I want.
The reason that I have 3 identical camcorders is that I can have one fitted on a gimbal and one for quick action shots, the other one is a spare in case anything should happen to either of the other two especially at a wedding !!! I flew to Morocco to video a wedding last year and I have one in Ireland to do in a couple of weeks, and you only get one chance
I sometimes use 3 cameras for filming musical groups with 2 on fixed positions and one handheld for audience reactions and close ups of instruments etc and edit them together on the timelines with the separate recorded audio track.
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Oddly enough I have a 50D that doesn't do video but my old 7D does. I'm taking both to Le Mans so will give it a try on the 7D. I'm told it would be better with an external microphone so I might look one up.
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Oddly enough I have a 50D that doesn't do video but my old 7D does. I'm taking both to Le Mans so will give it a try on the 7D. I'm told it would be better with an external microphone so I might look one up.
Peter, an external microphone certainly makes a difference and I
use them a lot in my videos. You can pay a lot of money for top of the range models that you probably don't need or possibly won't use often.
What you want is a "Shotgun mike" that is directional that won't pick up sound from behind and even a cheap one will be better than the one fitted to your camera.
If you do decide to buy one get a small one that will fit on the hot shoe and if possible use it in a "manual" setting rather than "auto".
I have 3 different ones and the one that I normally use on my camcorders is *this one* as it's small and light. If I am recording music with a live group I use a separate sound recorder to keep the sound the same because if you are moving about it will alter.
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Very often when I am out wandering in the out backs I sometimes want to take a shot of us walking to include in my videos, I know that you can simply place the camera on the ground or a wall but very often there isn't a suitable place that is secure enough to fix it and of course you don't want to lug a tripod about
I have looked at several of the mini flexible tripods in the past and decided to get a Ulanzi MT33 that cost a massive £18! and it claims that it will hold up to 2Kg. You can fit it to almost anything that the legs will fit round and will hang upside down. It has a ball head that will swivel to 90deg also a cold shoe mount and a built in phone mount and is really well made.
The Joby ones that are made up of clip together plastic balls that hold that sort of weight are a fortune to buy in comparison and very often fall apart after a short time. This one will also go in a pocket.
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I did mean to mention regarding the picture of the flexible clamp in my last post that the camera on it is a Panasonic HC VXF990 that I have had for a couple of years. It is an updated version of the old 900 series but is 4k as well as 1080p HD. it's certainly a good bit of kit and even has wifi so you can stream live (if that floats yer boat)
At the end of last year I also bought a Sony FDR AX53, another 4k camcorder but has a built in gimbal on the lens. Although I use it a lot for various videos that I make I tend to go for the Panasonic if I am just wandering about as the Sony is bigger and considerably heavier, but takes amazing stabilized footage especially when walking and filming at the same time.
I still have 3 of the old Panasonic 900 series that I will still use for multi cam shots as they still work extremely well and aren't worth a lot of money so not worth selling.
Regarding 4k, I often use it for filming groups mainly because you can crop parts in editing without losing quality in the finished article when rendered back to 1080p HD
4K takes up a lot of space and computing power compared to HD using the same frame rate and most of the finished videos are viewed on small phone and tablet screens these days so making and uploading them isn't worth wasting the time and space IMHO.
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