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Old 5 Jan 2004, 19:06 (Ref:828648)   #1
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mcrae not doing so well in dakar
Seems mcrae went on in dakar in what he was doing the most in 2003: getting beaten.

Is it time for ole colin to call it a day and retire?
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 19:12 (Ref:828657)   #2
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JAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
He's not doing to bad IMO. Up to 6th I believe. I think a top 3 result could happen.

Anyway he's swithching to the Prodrive 550 in the new LMES and LM apparently.
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 19:54 (Ref:828690)   #3
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Bob Irvine.. should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Yeah,i agree Jag,not bad going first time out.
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 20:17 (Ref:828716)   #4
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Christ mania, it's his first attempt! I think he's doing quite brilliantly to be honest!
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 20:42 (Ref:828737)   #5
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rdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridrdjones should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I see that he currently 6th only 14' 17" behind the leader, which is not much at all.
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 21:17 (Ref:828773)   #6
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Paris-Dakar is not "just a rally". Holding 5th place in one's first attempt is actually very good - so far. A lot of "big names" tried dakar and found out that is was "different". The slightest mistake can ruin it all. Still a couple of weeks to go. Anything can happen, although I'm sure it will be one of the Mitsubishis winning again.
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 21:52 (Ref:828825)   #7
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It's early days yet. Anything can happen and probably will. I'm going to cheer for de Mavius myself, but I hope Colin does well.
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Old 5 Jan 2004, 22:51 (Ref:828910)   #8
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So do I. As the others have said, it's very early in the rally. So far he has done very well for a newcomer to this sort of event, IMO.
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Old 6 Jan 2004, 22:27 (Ref:829936)   #9
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McRae is 3rd overall now after his 7 1/2 min penalty from yesterday was scrapped. It turned out he hadn't sped through that town after all, there was something wrong with the measuring equipment.
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Old 7 Jan 2004, 13:08 (Ref:830435)   #10
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Seems mcrae went on in dakar in what he was doing the most in 2003: getting beaten.

Is it time for ole colin to call it a day and retire?
Erm. After stage 6 he's 3rd overall only 15 minutes down on the leader. Yeah that's awful - he should pack it in right now!
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Old 7 Jan 2004, 16:08 (Ref:830656)   #11
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its a three week race, its only a third over...this is when you make the first set of pitstops in an F1 race, or the end of leg one in WRC lets not jump to conclusions
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Old 7 Jan 2004, 17:39 (Ref:830742)   #12
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Mansellmania: Is this your first Dakar?
According to your opinion I think the answer is yes.

I am not a fan of McRae but he's doing very well in his first Dakar.
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Old 7 Jan 2004, 22:17 (Ref:830963)   #13
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Spot on. Bearing in mind that Biasion is out, and Kleinshmidt and Vatenen both lost major time, and Colin's stayed out of trouble and running fast. How far in front would he have to be to be considered doing well?
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It is his first Dakar. He has limited experience of anything like it. Frankly I'd be impressed if he came 20th!

And he is 3rd at the moment Good thread!

If he crashes tomorrow it ill be a success!
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 00:14 (Ref:831081)   #15
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He got stuck in a sand dune today.

That never happened to him in Wales...
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 08:06 (Ref:831270)   #16
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Happened to Gronholm last year though and Burns the year before
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 09:07 (Ref:831298)   #17
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Having run support for Patrick Tambay in '87 I can assure you that this is a whole different ball game - and the level of experience and professionalism at the top is unbelievable. Nissan are in the 2nd year of a 4 year programme and had Ari & De Villiers as their experienced runners with Colin as a last minute addition. I am not particularly a fan of his, but the man can drive and is still holding 3rd after the longest stage - lets hope he can just survive to day 18.
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 09:27 (Ref:831309)   #18
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I think he's doing really well for a newcomer to the Dakar. In an interview last night he said he had to totally rethink his attitude (after getting stuck in the sand), but that he's enjoying it so far. Still, it's very early days. I'm not a particular fan, but I hope he does well.
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 18:06 (Ref:831815)   #19
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Well judging from the hype surrounding mcrae youd expect he'd walk this, this ordinary stuff for such a big WRC name.
At least beat his teammate bcs he looked a bit feeble this year being outraced in same cars by imo, lesser gods.
I have to admit he did pretty well.


I just read he damaged his tranny and is out of the rally.
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 18:08 (Ref:831819)   #20
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You really don't understand do you - there is no more similarity between this and WRC than there is between F1 and NASCAR
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You really don't understand do you - there is no more similarity between this and WRC than there is between F1 and NASCAR
I don't agree with you, there is simialrity between WRC and Dakar.
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 18:47 (Ref:831859)   #22
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Yes - they are both off road, both require navigation, er.... The nearest thing the WRC has to the Paris-Dakar is the old Safari rally - no other WRC event even comes close. Sorry, as I said as similar as Nascar & F1
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Old 8 Jan 2004, 18:59 (Ref:831870)   #23
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Yes - they are both off road, both require navigation, er.... The nearest thing the WRC has to the Paris-Dakar is the old Safari rally - no other WRC event even comes close. Sorry, as I said as similar as Nascar & F1
Ahum, i think the australian rally event is as hard if not harder than that dakar rally.
But as i said, i think colin did well, not great, but he did well.
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Yes - they are both off road, both require navigation, er.... The nearest thing the WRC has to the Paris-Dakar is the old Safari rally - no other WRC event even comes close. Sorry, as I said as similar as Nascar & F1
Didn't win McRae win 2 times the Safari rally?
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Ahum, i think the australian rally event is as hard if not harder than that dakar rally.
They are not comparable. There are stages on the Dakar that are as long as the entire Australian Rally, which has repeated stages! So the way you drive them is very very different. Also the cars are very different. I agree with racingdad.
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But as i said, i think colin did well, not great, but he did well.
So you did, but why:
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Seems mcrae went on in dakar in what he was doing the most in 2003: getting beaten.

Is it time for ole colin to call it a day and retire?
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