[iV8SC13SHOW] MSS Security Challenge, Albert Park: 14-17 Mar

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Marcos WTF

And I thought it was about racing........


Off the top of my head, how about some more time on the Historics in the
Shannons Garage (or what ever they called it) and interviews with some F1 greats of the past. Maybe I missed it.

I mean, who really gives a rat's about the hosts of the Project, the Bondi Vet in the F-18 or the robot from Masterchef or the rest of the 10 'personalities'. Hardly A list material, any of them.

Not the GP, its all about the celebs. the racing is the excuse to gather.

they defiantly interviewed F1 greats yesterday, havent seen any today. well few

I agree with you in principle, but the F1 is really a lot of dead time. its two hours from the speed comparison to the race.

So the fill it with interviews like they do with the melbourne cup coverage to make it more interesting for those that are not really into motorsport

[GTRMagic]

Winner winner lamb chop dinner

[DV_08]

Didn't see the point of the compulsory pit stop, thought races 2 and 4 would have been better with out it.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by DV_08

Didn't see the point of the compulsory pit stop, thought races 2 and 4 would have been better with out it.

i wondered also. glad we got rid of them in the real series

[johnh875]

Given that Ch10 talked up the 60th anniversary of the Albert Park GP I thought it was disappointing they didn't show the parade (unless I missed it?)

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by johnh875

Given that Ch10 talked up the 60th anniversary of the Albert Park GP I thought it was disappointing they didn't show the parade (unless I missed it?)

Deep down, they don't really care.

[fordo]

With such big gaps between the events they could have shown some of the cars on display as well as races held earlier on and Friday. What happened to the Classic Sportscar event. Did the show it at all ?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by fordo

With such big gaps between the events they could have shown some of the cars on display as well as races held earlier on and Friday. What happened to the Classic Sportscar event. Did the show it at all ?

Too busy showing the b-grade morons from the Qantas Club.

[Umai Naa]

Television's lost its way, to be honest.

I'm sure even the market outside of motorsport enthusiests they were trying to target, were probably getting annoyed at all the irrelevent filler material and colour stories, as opposed to acutal coverage of the racing itself.

[Bell_End]

Yeah how dare the network which shelled out a small fortune to be able to cover the gp trackside plus the tv rights for the rest of the year use said gp to promote other shows on their network. What *******s!!!


Now don't get me wrong I wish they would cover all the support events but that will never happen anymore and like others have said there is always bit gaps between on track action so they always need to fill it with the b grade celebrity fluff parts. You don't have to watch it all and can switch it off between the sessions you want to watch.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

i wondered also. glad we got rid of them in the real series

Didn't we have them in Adelaide?

A minimum of two stops for fuel or something similar - the details escape me at this moment.

In hindsight the avent of compulsary pitstops in world motorport from the mid 1990's onwards should be viewed as a mistake.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by chavez

Didn't we have them in Adelaide?

A minimum of two stops for fuel or something similar - the details escape me at this moment.

In hindsight the avent of compulsary pitstops in world motorport from the mid 1990's onwards should be viewed as a mistake.

No.

There was no cumpolsory fuel stop at Clipsal caused by a rule.

It was caused by fuel consumption.

We havent had rule forced pitstops for a number of years now

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by chavez

Didn't we have them in Adelaide?

A minimum of two stops for fuel or something similar - the details escape me at this moment.

In hindsight the avent of compulsary pitstops in world motorport from the mid 1990's onwards should be viewed as a mistake.

In hindsight??? I could've told anyone who'd listen, as a 12yo ('93), that mandatory pit stops are bull****. Not that I'd expect any one to search, but I have said on this site, that 1993 was the last real year of F1. Not blowing my own trumpet, just saying.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

In hindsight??? I could've told anyone who'd listen, as a 12yo ('93), that mandatory pit stops are bull****. Not that I'd expect any one to search, but I have said on this site, that 1993 was the last real year of F1. Not blowing my own trumpet, just saying.

agreed,

F1 has certainly become gimmicky and in many ways more rigid

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

No.

There was no cumpolsory fuel stop at Clipsal caused by a rule.

It was caused by fuel consumption.

We havent had rule forced pitstops for a number of years now

thanks Peckstar.

I thought I heard Mark L when explaining the race strategy on his whiteboard that you could run 40 something laps on fuel, but you had to make two pitstops.

Have they reduced the size of the fuel tank? Less than 125 km on a tank of fuel does seem very low.

[Umai Naa]

They're only running one tank size now, as opposed to the 75L and 120L ones.

I think the new one is 112L, from memory.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by peckstar

No.

There was no cumpolsory fuel stop at Clipsal caused by a rule.

It was caused by fuel consumption.

We havent had rule forced pitstops for a number of years now

Clipsal definitely had compulsory pit stops - teams required to make two stops where they added fuel and/or at least two tyres.

It's in the Supp Regs.

[sizzle]

Here it states the small tank is TBC and the large is 106 on page 26 in 9.4.1 http://www.v8supercars.com.au/files/...013-Div-C1.pdf

however here
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/technical/vehicle-details
it states the small tank is TBA and the large is 112.

Nowhere have I found a reference to the small, maybe in the next supp regs.

[Umai Naa]

Weren't they having supply issues with the big tank anyway?

Maybe the same applies for the smaller tank, too?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Clipsal definitely had compulsory pit stops - teams required to make two stops where they added fuel and/or at least two tyres.

It's in the Supp Regs.

you are right i missed that, it was never something they discussed at the race

I assume they have had to do this because of the re-introduction of larger fuel tanks

Its a little bit different to a 30 min race though as they will genuinely need to fill up with fuel at Clipsal, and the cars will benefit from the fresh tyres

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by MattV

Exactly what does ignition timing do and does it have any link to performance?

I was told, open to correction though, that engine builders mess with ignition timing, especially when it is wet, because it reduces the torque of the motor meaning less wheelspin.

so the argument that it is not a performance advantage is partly correct (under the theory) less torque, not an advantage, better tarction means a quicker lap though

[Mixer]

Could be true, but the comment was made by T.Kelly that the timing on their engine was a result of the dyno testing.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Could be true, but the comment was made by T.Kelly that the timing on their engine was a result of the dyno testing.

If it was a result of dyno testing, does this not suggest that perhaps the 2 Nissans were also running non-conforming engine timing settings in both R1 and R2 of the Albert Park weekend as well?