J Richards Penalised after stupid move!

[brendan24688]

According to this he was penalised...

Down in P28 where he deserved to be

RACE RESULTS
Australian Grand Prix, Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit 30/3/2006 - 2/4/2006
Race 1
Race Day: Friday, 15:30-15:50 Race Duration: 10 Laps Reverse Grid: N

Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Race Time Fastest Lap Fastest Time
1 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:08.8215 2 1:58.6699
2 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:09.4224 4 1:59.0757
3 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 10 23:10.8510 4 1:59.1302
4 11 Jack Daniel's Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:11.6702 3 1:59.4803
5 50 Super Cheap Auto Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:12.6035 3 1:59.5812
6 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 10 23:13.4025 5 1:59.6015
7 18 V8 Telecom Will Davison Ford Falcon BA 10 23:14.1836 5 1:59.7834
8 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 10 23:14.4731 5 1:59.6929
9 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:14.7086 4 1:59.4562
10 17 FirstRock Home Loans Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 10 23:15.4456 3 2:00.3002
11 10 WPS Financial Services Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 10 23:16.1884 4 2:00.0573
12 8 WPS Racing Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 10 23:16.9502 4 2:00.1407
13 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:17.6067 4 1:59.9888
14 16 Toll HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:18.5858 3 1:58.7875
15 1 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 10 23:18.8236 3 1:59.7965
16 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 10 23:19.1946 4 2:00.2284
17 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Dean Canto Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:19.8356 5 2:00.2181
18 55 Autobarn Racing Steve Owen Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:21.1918 10 2:01.2541
19 14 Team BOC Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 10 23:21.6835 5 2:00.5394
20 88 Team Betta Electrical Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon BA 10 23:22.1431 4 1:58.6698
21 39 Team Sirromet Wines Fabian Coulthard Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:23.0115 3 2:00.3804
22 23 Tasman Motorsport Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:24.1330 3 2:00.7513
23 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:24.5851 3 2:00.9064
24 67 Team Sirromet Wines Paul Morris Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:25.8622 5 2:00.7678
25 20 Glenfords Racing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BA 10 23:27.2001 5 2:02.7309
26 51 Holden Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:28.1130 3 2:01.8261
27 25 Fujitsu Motorsport Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 10 23:30.2403 3 2:02.5080
28 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VZ 10 23:40.2821 3 1:58.8951
DNF 26 Fujitsu Motorsport Jose Fernandez Ford Falcon BA 5 10:35.1678 3 2:02.7791
DNF 4 Jeld-Wen Motorsport James Courtney Ford Falcon BA 1 2:20.6465 1 2:20.6465
DNF 15 Toll HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ

[racer69]

What was stupid about the move?

[Raglanparade]

Im seeing a common theme with the DNF next to courtneys name.

Good effort frosty... maybe i might lose my shirt afterall.. and an equally good effort by Will Davison

[brendan24688]

Basically off the line into turn 1 Richards decided to make a "HERO" move down the inside of Whincup. It went R kelly on the outside, Whinchup in the middle and knob head on the outside. In the end they all sandwiched, ending R kellys day and holdin up Whincup which in turn ended whincups day (although it was jamies fault haha but im blamin Richards)

Brendan

[racer69]

I saw it, i just don't see what the big deal was.

[brendan24688]

Did you not see the start??

[Raglanparade]

J Richards went down the inside... he swung wide... but he remained on the circuit and kerbing.. ( i was suprised he could!! ).

It was an opportunistic first corner move, and whilst i dont think it was an illegal room.

the only problem with the pass was that it didnt leave racing room for Rick.

[silver 2]

It does not take a genius to brake so late that EVERYBODY else gets to crash trying to avoid him.Let alone the consequences of stupid action. The fact is the stewards support this view. They got it right.

[Nivola]

So if this is a stupid move. What bike races call the block pass what the hell do we call the moving chicane of one Dodo hrt driver?

It is a shame that he got penalised for something that never gets a penalty. JR made a good move that only came unstuck when Wincup taged the back left when turning in. Had rick on the right turning in on him who had no idea JR was there.

This is raceing my friends. Did Frosty cop it for the same move behind JR or not?

[dmcl]

I think the IPO used a philosophy that has merit: "You f... someones race, I'll f... yours" It was a brave move, unlikely to have suceeded, and several competitors fell victim of someone elses "red mist"

[silver 2]

If he had been able to turn the inside radius of the corner those comments might apply- but when you drive EVERONE else off the outside of the track it is just plain DUMB.

[kmsport]

Lets not be a critic on a subject we have no experience in...what was the official reason for the penalty?
IPO fornicates again the race results

[storyline]

IPO - what IPO? Wrong category.

As a serious question - would this be the first time he has been excluded from an event?

[stmorri]

I have to agree with the IPO. It's a non championship event and there's no need for desparate moves. I must commend Lowndes for a sensible drive......nothing silly.

[GTRMagic]

We are talking about Jason Richards here arent we, not Jim Richards, so an IPO would be relevant. Is there a CAMS press release out yet?

[kmsport]

I feel the poppy slasher is out...

[Scott75]

You've got to be kidding me if he has been penalised for that. He took a gamble and it payed off. There has been a hell of a lot worse than that. This judiccial system is just a joke. 2 race meetings and 2 ridiculous decisions. RK for a supposed jump start and now this. The whole system needs an upgrade. Get rid of all the old timers ie Schenken and Bond and bring in some new blood. ie Seton. He would do a much better job as he has just finished in the main game (Full time).

[storyline]

Apologies - my bad - the subject matter wasn't clear enough. Although I still ask the same question about him having been DQ's before.

Media release - no and there won't be - they only issue them from Championship rounds.

[spectator22]

You're kidding! Looked like a great start/move at T1. Were becoming a Nanny Country, and now V8s a Nanny category. Poor bleating Rick K - doesnt he know the outside is NOT the place to be. Thats it, V8s are now starting to lose me.

[rustyinsthoz]

Have to agree I thought it was a great move. You have to wounder about the decision making process by officials. Seems to be as much who you are, rather than what you do that gets you penalised.

[TSR]

Originally Posted by silver 2

It does not take a genius to brake so late that EVERYBODY else gets to crash trying to avoid him.Let alone the consequences of stupid action. The fact is the stewards support this view. They got it right.

The qustion is will the stewards keep up this form for the remainder of the year, I think NOT.

[GTRMagic]

By way of comparison, did you think David Reynold's drive across the grass straight after teh start was appropriate? It went across the exit to pitlane, and if he had drifted further, would have ended up in the grandstands!!

[racer69]

Mark Skaife got penalised (a stop-go) at Winton in 1991 because his 4WD Nissan GTR got a better start than the car in front and he drove onto the grass to get around him, making up ground in the process.......

Originally Posted by stmorri

I have to agree with the IPO. It's a non championship event and there's no need for desparate moves. I must commend Lowndes for a sensible drive......nothing silly.

Why should it matter whether it is a championship round or not as to whether a move is dangerous enough to be penalised for or not.


I fail to see how a move where the driver in question stayed on the track without nailing someone can be considered dangerous enough to be penalised.


Although i was even more perplexed today when it was mentioned that Skaife was going to be given a 'bad sportsmanship' flag for trying to defend the race lead. This lot never fail to turn me off it all even more.......

[storyline]

CH 10 stated that he 'probably' would receive a flag - it wasn't a statement of fact but a 'Diffyism' (his opinion which he believes to be fact!).

[peckstar]

How quickly did we forget the rules

Its called racing room and he did not leave any causing a car to retire from the race. Its dissapointing that they took to after the race to penalise for this. effectively you have one driver trying to pass a driver who clearly deserved a penalty, when he should have been attempting to pass the moving HRT dodo road block (another topic all together)