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Old 3 Jul 2024, 08:30 (Ref:4217663)   #6751
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United seems to be a bit more back seat for him but also run differently than Indy or F1
I always imagined United was self sponsored, or competed with driver assisted funding as it appears there is rarely a commonly known commercial brand on those cars… and they seem to pop up EVERYWHERE… so the pressures would be much less to chase headlines..
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Old 3 Jul 2024, 11:42 (Ref:4217675)   #6752
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And seems to be drivers who are in racing to enjoy their money and not bring the business along with them. Learn to drive fast and assist a young kid moving up, always been a fan of theirs and livery is nice, clean and understated. Not every one needs to burns the eyes to get attention
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Old 4 Jul 2024, 23:54 (Ref:4217819)   #6753
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Apparently Prema Racing have been talking to Logan Sargeant, about joining their IndyCar team next year.



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Old 5 Jul 2024, 07:37 (Ref:4217852)   #6754
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Apparently Prema Racing have been talking to Logan Sargeant, about joining their IndyCar team next year.



https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...itch/10631338/
Probably wouldn't surprise me to see him go over there. We'll see how the rest of the F1 season goes and if he can improve
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Old 5 Jul 2024, 20:56 (Ref:4217903)   #6755
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Apparently Prema Racing have been talking to Logan Sargeant, about joining their IndyCar team next year.



https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/n...itch/10631338/
I thought they were going to pair a youngish but experienced regular with a Prema alumni.

Sargeant doesn't fit either criteria?
Or did he drive for them in F3?
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I thought they were going to pair a youngish but experienced regular with a Prema alumni.

Sargeant doesn't fit either criteria?
Or did he drive for them in F3?

He raced with them in 2020, but still not what I would really call a fit.
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Old 5 Jul 2024, 21:13 (Ref:4217911)   #6757
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Old 6 Jul 2024, 04:55 (Ref:4217928)   #6758
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I think this may be Ward more than Zak.
In saying that, if Arrow are leaving, if Nolan and Christian are cheaper, ('Couldn't meet him in the middle on terms', so it's about money) if there is the possibility of new sponsors along with the drivers, and if pressure is on to produce results and they can't engineer their way to the win, then replacing the driver is their only possible avenue.

I thought Rossi was doing a good job.
If I had the money, I could start own team with the discarded drivers....
McBrown Racing, with Theo, Callum, Malukas, and Alex....

Sounds like money was the issue to me. My guess is that they wanted to keep Rossi but pay him less than he's currently getting. I like Rossi and he's been pretty much Pato's equal this year.



It's been rumored that Hy Vee is going to follow Lundgaard to McLaren which if true might be reason enough for the move. I hope that doesn't prove to be the case.
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Old 6 Jul 2024, 13:20 (Ref:4217962)   #6759
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Sounds like money was the issue to me. My guess is that they wanted to keep Rossi but pay him less than he's currently getting. I like Rossi and he's been pretty much Pato's equal this year.



It's been rumored that Hy Vee is going to follow Lundgaard to McLaren which if true might be reason enough for the move. I hope that doesn't prove to be the case.

I thought the Hy Vee deal was Bobby Rahals's and was linked to the multi-year deal he put together for the race at Iowa in 2022?
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Old 6 Jul 2024, 15:58 (Ref:4217981)   #6760
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I thought the Hy Vee deal was Bobby Rahals's and was linked to the multi-year deal he put together for the race at Iowa in 2022?

I don't remember if the number of years of the deal was mentioned. Is this year two or year three of the deal?
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Old 6 Jul 2024, 16:14 (Ref:4217984)   #6761
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I don't remember if the number of years of the deal was mentioned. Is this year two or year three of the deal?
This article from Forbes has the details but basically in 2020, Hy Vee signed a three-year deal with Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing and the Iowa race was a separate project, that fitted into the company's overall marketing plan.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucema...y-for-indycar/
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Kat back in an Indy car for Iowa with DCR.

https://racer.com/2024/07/09/legge-t...eturn-at-iowa/

And possibly in for the rest of the ovals as well
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Iowa downforce cut of 10% with the repave and 105lbs of hybrid kit addition

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3 seconds of hybrid deployment per lap, 105kJ of energy based on testing
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Old 11 Jul 2024, 01:26 (Ref:4218543)   #6764
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This article from Forbes has the details but basically in 2020, Hy Vee signed a three-year deal with Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing and the Iowa race was a separate project, that fitted into the company's overall marketing plan.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucema...y-for-indycar/

Pretty sure this is the 3rd year that RLL has been sponsored by Hy Vee, so this season could be the end of the sponsorship. 2022 was with Harvey's car and the sponsorship moved to Lundgaard for 2023 and 2024. Hy Vee following Lundgaard is just a rumor that I read on another site. Seems like it was from an Indy based blogger or journalist that I'd never heard of. I hope that there's nothing to it. Hy Vee has done a lot for the series, I hope they stick around in whatever capacity works for them.
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So in addition to the likes of Mick Schu, Ilott, amd Sargeant, there are quite a few other fairly well known and well regarded ex Prema guys who could conceivably fit the bill for an Indycar seat next year:
Armstrong (Ganassi contracted),
Arthur Leclerc (not doing a lot), Schwartzmann (still very much a Ferrark 'junior'),
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Crawford (either a 3rd yesr of F2 beckons or he could build an Indycar career?)
And one that would be pretty big for Indycar in China... Zhou. He may be out of F1 this year so that could be pretty mega?

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Harvey taking a week to recover and McElrea filling in at Toronto

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So in addition to the likes of Mick Schu, Ilott, amd Sargeant, there are quite a few other fairly well known and well regarded ex Prema guys who could conceivably fit the bill for an Indycar seat next year:
Armstrong (Ganassi contracted),
Arthur Leclerc (not doing a lot), Schwartzmann (still very much a Ferrark 'junior'),
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Vesti (says he wants to try different categories but is still a Merc junior.)
Crawford (either a 3rd yesr of F2 beckons or he could build an Indycar career?)
And one that would be pretty big for Indycar in China... Zhou. He may be out of F1 this year so that could be pretty mega?
With Prema being new to the series, I'd say Rossi gets one of the seats. Pro, fast, and knows the ins and outs of the car, rules, and tracks.


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Harvey taking a week to recover and McElrea filling in at Toronto

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I really like that Coyne gives young drivers a chance to drive. Even if it is a one-off, it is nice to see.
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Why? He needs a ride next season and they have 2 seats open.
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Why? He needs a ride next season and they have 2 seats open.
Exactly, it fits with them being a pro race team and wanting a driver who knows the car at first. They can engineer but would rather know what a baseline should be instead of 2 new kids.

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Sowery on the car supposedly so Sowery in the car makes sense
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Why? He needs a ride next season and they have 2 seats open.
I don't see Rossi wanting to pay a budget any more.
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