Historic Racers In Europe - Carnet Requirements? - Page 9

**Peter Mallett** · 21 Jan 2021, 09:23 (Ref:4030402)

I think we may be confusing insurances.

The insurance we need for the carnet, which is provided by the chambers of commerce, is to cover customs costs if we breach the carnet requirements. So, as I understand it, you have a bond or an insurance.

To get around the carnet, if your car is road registered you can insure it as a road car and take the green card.

andy97 · 21 Jan 2021, 09:24 (Ref:4030403)

The CSCC double header (inc a race in each direction) at Knockhill in May is looking far more likely than Spa in June!
I don’t think we need Carnets for Scotland......yet.

kickstart · 21 Jan 2021, 10:10 (Ref:4030413)

I tend to think that this will be a bit of a storm in a teacup but and here's the catch if you are the one stopped without the right documents then I would guess you either won't go to Europe to race or if its on the way back then I assume a hefty fine if not seizure of the goods ?
Personally I just would not be prepared to risk it and it sounds like Euro events will cost an additional £500/£700 but the upside is that the Carnet can be used for multiple trips

Gerard C · 21 Jan 2021, 10:23 (Ref:4030416)

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Originally Posted by midgetman

I'm happy with the service and level of cover, I'm sure they'll be on top of this situation.

If you're happy with a long term supplier there's absolutely no reason to change. La fidélité en affaires est une bonne chose. On sait ce que l'on quitte mais pas ce que l'on va trouver. Right? We have the same point of view I think.
I put Reis address in my records, thanks.

andy97 · 21 Jan 2021, 10:32 (Ref:4030418)

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Originally Posted by kickstart

I tend to think that this will be a bit of a storm in a teacup but and here's the catch if you are the one stopped without the right documents then I would guess you either won't go to Europe to race or if its on the way back then I assume a hefty fine if not seizure of the goods ?
Personally I just would not be prepared to risk it and it sounds like Euro events will cost an additional £500/£700 but the upside is that the Carnet can be used for multiple trips

I think you are probably right, Nigel, and things will settle down in time. The regular European racer will probably just be able to absorb it and one carnet will cover a season, but for the many club racers who just do one event a year at, say, Spa, Zandvoort or Croix an additional £500-700 on top will be the difference between going to Europe and not.

Let’s face it, an increasing number of club series had one overseas event a year in their calendar and for many it was the highlight of the year. That may end up stopping for many. A shame but c’est la vie, as they say in Peckham.

Lancsbreaker · 21 Jan 2021, 12:17 (Ref:4030428)

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Originally Posted by andy97

The CSCC double header (inc a race in each direction) at Knockhill in May is looking far more likely than Spa in June!
I don’t think we need Carnets for Scotland......yet.

It always was for us! Spa's a nice idea but costs as much to do as the rest of the season for us.

I'm with those who think the difficulties will be minor. I can remember when we rallied in Europe - Sweden, Belgium, Germany - when despite being members of the Common Market we still had to have carnets for the rally car, service barge contents etc, there was very little by way of checks - at a border you just handed a sheet of paper to a very bored official and went on your way. Coming back- I remember giving the final carnet sheet to a customs guy in Dover who as I walked towards him said "That you finished now lads?" and as I said "yes" he just took the sheet without a glance and waved us on our way.

Robert Farrell · 22 Jan 2021, 15:49 (Ref:4030696)

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Originally Posted by Newall Andy

Right...
COVID test translated to English. Straight through customs.
Didn’t ask where I had been, what I had been doing, why the Cobra was in the trailer, who’s it was, what was the value, why did I have spare wheels in the van. Nobody gave a flying **** throughout the whole trip.
Make of that what you will guys
A.

Delighted it worked for you Andy.

Newall Andy · 23 Jan 2021, 08:46 (Ref:4030796)

Hi.
Off to France again next week to collect two cars that we are running this year for a guy and his son. So cars going out of France into the UK for the whole year.
Round 2 game on !

A

Gerard C · 23 Jan 2021, 10:19 (Ref:4030801)

At least you found people who know where to find many good and different places to race, good ambiance and competitive friends/ cars. Two is better than none. If the custom officers are not on strike, you should not be bothered. Have fun and keep safe.

midgetman · 24 Jan 2021, 17:07 (Ref:4030948)

Safe journey Andy. One of my karting friends has just done a similar trip to Italy and says the shuttle terminal was heaving - no social distancing at all. Take care.

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Newall Andy · 1 Feb 2021, 18:22 (Ref:4032869)

Euro storm part 2.
Commences 07.30 hours with a COVID test at East Mids Airport services, free of charge of course, curtesy of our brave leader Boris.
Mission: collect two euro based cars and return to Gelscoe HQ Diseworth with minimal casualties.
Will keep you informed.

Andy.

**Peter Mallett** · 1 Feb 2021, 18:26 (Ref:4032870)

👍

Newall Andy · 2 Feb 2021, 12:05 (Ref:4032982)

Ok so.
Covid test and passport checked... straight on the train.
No questions no inspections. Customs guys everywhere but not interested in the slightest.
Phase 1 complete.

A

Lancsbreaker · 2 Feb 2021, 12:11 (Ref:4032985)

If you've taken a packed lunch - eat it quick!

Safe journeys

Newall Andy · 2 Feb 2021, 14:10 (Ref:4033032)

It was turkey not ham and cheese.