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16 Dec 2009, 07:42 (Ref:2600569)
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Marina track
hi all,
decided to get in on the modern track design, and have a designed a marina track, simliar to abu dhabi running along a marina waterfront. the track itself is entirely flat, as i cannot see any opportunitys for elevation changes. the circuit itself has alot of medium tight corners, and the dreaded " long straight followed by hairpin'!!!!. the most unique feature of my design is the lack of grandstands, besides the main paddock area. Along the waterfront sections there are large docks, allowing cruise ships to temporarily dock , and became grandstands. Hows that for a cruise package, 3 nights docked trackside with an awesome view of the track!. Although the track itself is nothing special , i feel the infrastructure and different unique style it has would make it a great grand prix circuit. I included a diagram with the rough track layout bolded as the detail included makes the track quite hard to follow at some points. cheers guys |
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16 Dec 2009, 13:14 (Ref:2600729)
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I like the concept and you obviously have put a lot of thought and work into the design.
I do however thing that you've handcuffed yourself somewhat by the location of the pitlane, and the need for the extended pit exit. Looking at the circuit a better location might be on the straight from T4 to the T5 kink. The pit entry would in effect be where you have located the current exit with the new pit exit beyond the kink. This would be safe enough as the next corner currently T6 is right handed so cars would stay middle-left of the track after the kink for the optimal line into T6. There are also one or two corners that don't have run-off which could do with some, namely T4 and T6 could do with extending the run-off further around the corners, likewise the exit of the chicane that leads onto the straight with the bridge over the harbour entrance. |
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16 Dec 2009, 13:48 (Ref:2600760)
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There are some corner shapes in your design that make it a great Marina circuit - probably the first great Marina circuit even.
These are Turn 5, the fast corner that comes after the kink in the backstraight, Turn 9, the assymetrical hairpin that should go in 2nd gear, Turns 10 and 11, and the slightly bent straight that leads past the yacht harbour with the kink at its end. Thank you for such great work. |
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16 Dec 2009, 14:55 (Ref:2600793)
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I agree with Yannick in everything.
A superb one. SBF definitely has a point about the pitlane, still it's one of those tracks I wish I had come up with. Congrats! bio |
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16 Dec 2009, 20:49 (Ref:2600964)
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WOW...just wow. You are one of the most talented and detailed designers on this forum. If I could find 1 fault with this track it would be that there are too many corners at or close to 90 degrees. Other than than I think its a fantastic track that could produce some excellent racing with an exceptional atmosphere. And of course, the presentation is as always second to none. Keep up there great work! I always look forward to your work.
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16 Dec 2009, 22:57 (Ref:2601020)
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hi all,
now that i read SBFs comments, I 100% agree about the pitlane, SBFs idea would make the exit far safer and more practical. Whether the 'commercial rights holder' would want the pitlane moved away from the waterfront area is another story though.  once again cheers for all the great comments and ideas. this forum is really great |
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17 Dec 2009, 01:33 (Ref:2601091)
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just added an edit to the track. is this what you had in mind SBF?
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17 Dec 2009, 02:31 (Ref:2601098)
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pretty much yes
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17 Dec 2009, 04:32 (Ref:2601118)
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BEST HAND DRAWN TRACK EVER!!!
While I have drawn tracks in a similar style as the roval you did. Never have I gotten this detailed with a track drawn on paper with a pencil as this one. This track is on a whole new level. I like the semi permanent street course style to it. It obviously looks inspired by Valencia and Abu Dhabi which get criticized a lot but happen to be tracks I like. I like the pits where you origonally have them. I like short pit straights. Keep up the good work. Your tracks rock. |
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17 Dec 2009, 19:33 (Ref:2601517)
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Just goes to show that you can create brilliant programmes but sometimes you just can't replace a good old-fashioned pencil, ruler and a sheet of A4
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17 Dec 2009, 19:37 (Ref:2601519)
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I appreciate the detail but I find the track uninspiring.
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17 Dec 2009, 20:52 (Ref:2601555)
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Quote:
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17 Dec 2009, 20:56 (Ref:2601558)
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Shambles buddy,
all our tries leave you uninspired - at least that's what I'm bound to think based on the fact that you haven't submitted a design in quite a while This here is NOT any kind of negative comment on your work or opinion, I'd just like to see a shambles-design again. See, if my memory isne't playing tricks on me I remember I liked your tracks quite much. bio |
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17 Dec 2009, 21:16 (Ref:2601569)
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I quite like that track because it looks very simply in terms of corners.
The detail is just excellent!!!!!!  It just goes to show you that if you work hard you can draw something by hand which is better than making it on design software. |
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19 Dec 2009, 16:35 (Ref:2602403)
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bio, that is not the case in any circumstance. I refute that directly, please review my comments. I've been 'designing racing circuits' on bits of scrap paper from a very early age, and I have a very, very simple design philosophy. I'm not going to pander to anybody if I do not like something and I am rarely nasty. I appreciate your sentiments regarding the intention of your post bio, but I reject your criticisms at a basic level.
Review these threads to get a grasp on the circuits that are most representative of my style. Flow, speed and naturality: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81605 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80874 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82020 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83211 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109503 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77567 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79192 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79173 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87244 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93919 http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100893 |
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19 Dec 2009, 19:52 (Ref:2602477)
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I suggest we keep the comments in this thread about this thread.
Personal attacks won't be tolerated SBF |
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20 Dec 2009, 12:09 (Ref:2602696)
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Shambles buddy,
I really meant what I meant: i like your tracks so I miss them. There was no sarcasm intended in what i said. Thanx for the links, they just strengthened my memories of me liking your designs. bio |
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20 Dec 2009, 12:11 (Ref:2602697)
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SBF,
if your comment was aimed at me - sorry I made the wrong impression of intending to attack shambles personally - I did not want anything like that. bio |
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24 Dec 2009, 04:13 (Ref:2604540)
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Welcome Super-agusi , I like your drawing a lot, it has to be hands down one of the most professional looking ones I've seen around and the track makes a lot of sense, being a streetcourse(I believe,no?)
I have only one small issue and is with T1, it is obviously a full throtle , ultra high speed,and I see not much space for anything if something goes wrong for someone.If I was a FIA or FIM official I'd surely would be looking at that spot with a magnifying glass and probably you will get a comment at least. other than that, It's lovely work, keep it coming. |
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