TCR Australia 2021

[Umai Naa]

I wonder how close Ms Espray was to replacing Mr Brown, over the HMCA-employed Mr Buchan?

Certainly ticks a lot of the required boxes to run competitively in TCR. FWD experience, can race in a pack, can win a race (and championship), bravado, mechanically-minded. Has close ties to Triple Eight, Norwell-nurtured, and part of the Erebus "academy".

You could do a lot worse than Holly.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

I wonder how close Ms Espray was to replacing Mr Brown, over the HMCA-employed Mr Buchan?

Certainly ticks a lot of the required boxes to run competitively in TCR. FWD experience, can race in a pack, can win a race (and championship), bravado, mechanically-minded. Has close ties to Triple Eight, Norwell-nurtured, and part of the Erebus "academy".

You could do a lot worse than Holly.

Had wondered if there was something else in Ms Espray’s future with selling her freshly completed Excel for 888-style pricing.

[one five five]

Who is “Ms Espray”?

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by one five five

Who is “Ms Espray”?

Holly Espray

[one five five]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Holly Espray

And has she shown any interest or where does the notion that she could have been in the HMO car come from?

If HMO want to get to the front, why aren’t they doing a Honda or Audi & flying Tarquini in for the next round to see where the i30’s are really stacking up? Over two weeks to the next round so plenty of time to complete quarantine

[Umai Naa]

She tested a HMO car earlier this year, when they were looking for a driver.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

She tested a HMO car earlier this year, when they were looking for a driver.

Thank you. Shame she didn’t get the seat, perhaps the funding to run the extra car that was run at Bathurst can be found for her later in the season.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by one five five

If HMO want to get to the front, why aren’t they doing a Honda or Audi & flying Tarquini in for the next round to see where the i30’s are really stacking up? Over two weeks to the next round so plenty of time to complete quarantine

I think the issue is that i30 is hopelessly draggy compared to other cars, and it is being replaced by the Elantra which looks a lot less draggy.

So on the long circuits it is going to struggle.

[champcarman]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I think the issue is that i30 is hopelessly draggy compared to other cars, and it is being replaced by the Elantra which looks a lot less draggy.

So on the long circuits it is going to struggle.

Missing Mr Brown, Morcom is running about where he was most of the time last year.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I think the issue is that i30 is hopelessly draggy compared to other cars, and it is being replaced by the Elantra which looks a lot less draggy.

The i30N TCR was plenty fast when it was first released! Couldn't the issues be more to do with considerable reductions in the turbocharger boost allowed on the i30N TCR compared to its specification in earlier seasons?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

The i30N TCR was plenty fast when it was first released! Couldn't the issues be more to do with considerable reductions in the turbocharger boost allowed on the i30N TCR compared to its specification in earlier seasons?

How many kilometres are on the engine and the turbos of the 4x Hyundais?
There was an issue in the HMO squad not having spare brake parts (boring stuff like rotors & pads) so older, less strong engines is not impossible either.

[Umai Naa]

When the Hyundai support is merely not much more than a token gesture, there really isn't a whole lot of outside money being tipped in.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

When the Hyundai support is merely not much more than a token gesture, there really isn't a whole lot of outside money being tipped in.

It's not even a token gesture, it's a licencing agreement and the money flows one way.

The assumption was you'd be able to make money selling cars and spares. But 2020 probably stuffed a lot of people's plans.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

When the Hyundai support is merely not much more than a token gesture, there really isn't a whole lot of outside money being tipped in.

So without a front line driver, and an uninterested manufacturer, where is HMO’s basis for whinging about parity?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by one five five

So without a front line driver, and an uninterested manufacturer, where is HMO’s basis for whinging about parity?

Making excuses in front of sponsors for a lack of results.

[Umai Naa]

HMCA isn't kicking in the sort of coin that makes them a big dollar factory squad. HMO have a deal with Hyundai Motorsport Global, that sees them as the local distributor of cars and parts for TCR and rallying.

They have as much entitlement as any team on the grid to question the local BOP, however they were fairly well hobbled in 2019, when Mr Brown still got the job done with minimal effort...

[mtpanorama]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

When the Hyundai support is merely not much more than a token gesture, there really isn't a whole lot of outside money being tipped in.

What i've been told is that the Australian teams want a new map in the ECU to allow for our lower grade fuel. The map has been draw up here and all they need is Hyundai TRC to upload it but they can't be bothered as it is only for a few cars. There is no help coming from Hyundai. The cars in Australia are leaning out on our fuel and they are blowing /damaging engines.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

What i've been told is that the Australian teams want a new map in the ECU to allow for our lower grade fuel. The map has been draw up here and all they need is Hyundai TRC to upload it but they can't be bothered as it is only for a few cars. There is no help coming from Hyundai. The cars in Australia are leaning out on our fuel and they are blowing /damaging engines.

Arent TCRA using the same Panta fuel in use in European TCR?

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Arent TCRA using the same Panta fuel in use in European TCR?

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Maybe that announced arrangement has ceased?

[Umai Naa]

The cars are all still running Panta signage, too.

[bludvl_x19]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Arent TCRA using the same Panta fuel in use in European TCR?

Yep. Comes to the Aussie distributor and all they do is transport it to the tracks.

[Mixer]

BoP adjustments prior to the start of the WTCR.

Hyundai: No adjustment
Audi RS3: +20kg, ride height up 10mm
Peugeot (-20kg), Honda (-10kg), Renault -10kg) all lose weight
Golf ride height down 10mm

All relative to previous BoP, not outright.

Not sure that this will answer the questions raised by Honda or Hyundai complaining about power adjustments.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/04/28...dqrmTWi9VZWTdQ

[2 litre Touring Car Star]

The disadvantage of live coverage is that there's too much piffle between races.

[2 litre Touring Car Star]

Whinging about BoP seems to work.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by 2 litre Touring Car Star

The disadvantage of live coverage is that there's too much piffle between races.

The 'human interest' stories are usually poorly researched and presented on the fly as well. Wasnt too clever to have to switch networks right at the end of the TCR R3 coverage today as well.

It was also interesting.. to see Mr O'Keefe's Renault pulled out of the #3 slot in the R3 presentations, and replaced by Mr Morcon's Hyundai during the commercial break... to match the penalty...